Talk:List of Desperate Housewives characters

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[edit] Matthew Applewhite

  • How old is he? 16-18? In high school? Likes Danielle Van De Kamp ? --Brown Shoes22 16:35, 16 November 2005 (UTC)
Matthew is supposedly 16 when in reality Mehcad Brooks is 25. A huge age gap if you ask me. Sfufan2005 00:16, 19 December 2005 (UTC)
Oh I was think why would a 25 old looking MAN like her?!--Brown Shoes22 23:17, 1 January 2006 (UTC)
Matthew said himself on episode 2-17 that he is 19, so there's your answer. Cheater1908 22:24, 2 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] How are there are two ?

Zach Young /Dana Delfino shows up in the "Young" and "Delfino" Famllies. Put one Famlliy, The Youngs !--Brown Shoes22 16:20, 16 November 2005 (UTC)

I question whether Delfino would automatically be the birth surname of Dana (Zach), since there is no obvious reference to a marriage between Mike and Dierdre. In some states, if the couple is unmarried, the child takes the surname of the mother.
It would appear that I take this show way too seriously sometimes.  :) — ArkansasTraveler 15:59, 14 February 2006 (UTC)
I don't think any state dictates the surname of a child. Rather, it is the parents' decision, and if there is only one parent, then it is that parent's decision. Theshibboleth 04:25, 3 April 2006 (UTC)
Deirdre reportedly hated Mike near the end, so she wouldn't have named her son Dana Delfino, it would have been Dana Taylor. Of course, given the lack of an actual statement of that in the show, a simple Dana might be best. 68.66.168.213 18:20, 24 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Virgil Applewhite and Caleb Applewhite !

Virgil Applewhite and Caleb Applewhite are the same person !--Brown Shoes22 04:13, 3 December 2005 (UTC)

  • Actually they're not. Caleb is the son and Virgil is her husband. Sfufan2005 04:38, 3 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] The Harper Family

Is there really a need for the Harper family. They are not recurring and will probably never appear again.--Dan777 17:04, 15 December 2005

They may be guests some point on the show but I think it would be wrong to delete someone's hard work. I suggest we keep it. Sfufan2005 22:06, 15 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Other Neighbours Section

I suggest there is a section for other neighbours, such as Ida Greenberg, Alberta Fromme and so.--Dan777 17:04, 15 December 2005

Sure, why not? Sfufan2005 22:06, 15 December 2005 (UTC)
Great! Good job.--Dan777

[edit] Todd Forrest ?

Todd Forrest is Paul Young's real name according to Mike in Episode 2.12 "We're Gonna Be All Right". Sfufan2005 20:48, 12 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Too Big !

  • Family Articles is the good idea. Foucs for the Housewives or cut out the Extended family parts: Uncles, Aunts, Friends, Cousins, poeple who worked for the main characters.--Brown Shoes22 08:18, 15 February 2006 (UTC)
    • The more the merrier. This is not the main page so why not.Dan777 22:06, 15 February 2006 (UTC)
    • I like the idea of grouping each family, but I also see splitting this article up at some point as the show continues to develop, and viewers are further acquainted with aspects of these families. In this case, perhaps the families will be classified under the central character associated with each family — usually a female character. — ArkansasTraveler 15:32, 22 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Susan's maiden name

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think there's only ever been one reference to Susan's maiden name in the entire series. Bremmer was her mother Sophie's married name sometime after Susan's birth. And I seem to recall Susan's father's surname being Ross. Anyone else remember this? — ArkansasTraveler 15:35, 22 February 2006 (UTC)

That's a question I also had but gave up. It's definitely not Bremmer since Sophie was married 3 times prior. Plus Susan's father's surname is Prudy. Sfufan2005 20:42, 22 February 2006 (UTC)
Yes, Susan's birth father's surname was Prudy, but that wouldn't have been reflected as her surname as she grew up. Nothing turns up at the official site at ABC, but I'm almost positive it was mentioned during the eighth episode of the second season. — ArkansasTraveler 22:32, 22 February 2006 (UTC)
Just for the record, Sophie has been married 4 times. Dan777 19:23, 8 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Split article

  • I split the article into Main families and Recurring families. The main families are the families that are the regulars: the families that have been here since day 1 e.g. The Housewives families:
    • The Van De Kamps
    • The Scavos
    • The Mayers
    • The Solises
    • The Britts
    • The Youngs

The rest are "recurring families" thus that title. Sfufan2005 21:53, 11 March 2006 (UTC)


I disagree 100%

Mike is a Regular and and the Applewhites are Regular... We should not have this at all! I will re-vert over and over because I think this is not right...! All characters are important! Ron535251

Well the decision is not entirely up to you. You need a consensus. Plus a revert war isn't going to solve anyone's problems, now is it? Sfufan2005 00:24, 12 March 2006 (UTC)
If you have the Youngs you gotta have Mike. Dan777 18:12, 16 March 2006 (UTC)

Well SFUFan you are not a dicator either!

Excuse me! I think the proper word is "dictator" and I never said I was. I was just telling him that a revert war isn't going to solve anyone's problems. Plus that's an easy way to get blocked without fully discussing it. (I'm pretty much over that though since that was a few months ago) But still I don't need to be told by an ANONYMOUS USER what I am since I have been around Wikipedia longer than you. Sfufan2005 16:05, 20 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Susan Mayer - POV?

First line of Susan's entry - Negative POV? Bswee 21:30, 30 March 2006 (UTC)

Well, it's not quite neutral, I'd say. — ArkansasTraveler 16:01, 19 April 2006 (UTC)
That's definitely not NPOV: the words annoyingly self-righteous give it away. Should we change this? Sfufan2005 18:58, 19 April 2006 (UTC)

I suggest keep it the way it is. Cheater1908 01:37, 23 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Surnames

  • I think the extended surnames in the headlines are extremely tacky such as "The Van de Kamp/Mason family" or "The Mayer/Bremmer/Flickman" family. This happened over the summer on the original character page and it looked horrible with the example "The Van de Kamp/Mason family and George Williams" which many editors did not like. Its better to keep the headings simple since we don't want all though names on the headings. Sfufan2005 16:14, 20 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Cleanup Tag

I added a cleanup tag to the article after finding the following: 1) typos, 2) grammer error (e.g. Carlos Mother --> Carlos' Mother), 3) large blocks of text that would be much more readable if broken into several paragraphs. Antonrojo 00:46, 30 April 2006 (UTC)

GRAMMER mistakes? Dan777 15:14, 30 April 2006 (UTC)
Ah, the irony. That's why I spellcheck my article contributions. Antonrojo 18:56, 30 April 2006 (UTC)
As of now, typos in the article have been fixed. Antonrojo 12:46, 1 May 2006 (UTC)
I don't know who was responsible for Carlos Mother but that was only thing in the whole article that was off. Dan777 16:27, 1 May 2006 (UTC)

After skimming the article there are still some fixes needed and I think I got all of the spelling errors: 1) Plurals for names that end in s should be <thename>'s (e.g. Carlos's not Carlos'...the latter version is only correct historically) 2) At least one punctuation error with: "Regardless of her flaws, have you ever stopped and said thank you for all she does for you around the house"? 3) Runon paragraphs that need breaking up to make them more readable to avoid 'block 'o text' syndrome 4) Confusing sentences that are either runon or unclear, for example "He tackled Caleb and got him arrested thanks to Bongo's senses.". As time permits I'll fix some of these.Antonrojo 17:15, 3 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Individual articles

I'm not the one who added the too long tag however this page is getting a tad long. All for the good though, however I think our main players "the housewives" or every character who is credited and has played an important contribution to the overall story should have their own articles such as all housewives, Mary Alice, Andrew, Mike and Betty just to name a few. However if we do decide to do this we still should keep all characters on this page except that they will not have any information. The remainder of the characters should remain on this page such as any guest stars or minor characters.

For example: Bree Van De Kamp (see main article). Plus I recently discovered that Gabrielle already has her own article FYI Gabrielle Solis which is in pretty good shape for an example Opinions? Sfufan2005 04:08, 20 May 2006 (UTC)

It works !--Brown Shoes22 04:46, 20 May 2006 (UTC)

OK, I've reduced the article size from 86 k to 58 k, if anyone would like to do any additional editing feel free. Sfufan2005 17:39, 20 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Carlos's brothers

  • When did Juanita mention Carlos's brothers? Cheater1908 17:23, 4 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Jerry Shaw

  • How do we know Mr. Shaw's first name? Cheater1908 01:01, 5 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Deirdre or Deidre?

How do you guys know that there is an "r" in her name? On the season one DVD the "English For the Hearing Impaired" spells it without an r, and so does IMDB, but tv.com and this site spells it with an r, and Mike and a few other characters do clearly articulate an r. I would find it hard to believe anyone would pronounce it with an r if it wasn't written with an r in the script, but they may have just heard the name before, and not thought about the r or lack of it. So is there a way you guys know? Emily (Funtrivia Freak) 16:04, 9 July 2006 (UTC)

I think although the name is Pronounced "Deidre" it's written or spelled "Deidre" with a silent "R". I'm not sure, but if you try to look up the name under "Deidre" with no R, you don't get results. So that's probably how the name is written. -- Omernos 17:21, 9 July 2006 (UTC)

That? How is the name probably written? With an r? I'm just not exactly following you. Emily (Funtrivia Freak) 17:43, 9 July 2006 (UTC)

  • I've noticed that Susan is the only one who pronounces without an r. Noah, her father, pronounces it with an r, so I'm guessing that's it because people know their own childrens' names. Therefore, it's probably spelled with an r. Cheater1908 18:59, 10 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] How old are the characters now ?

And plasee update the article !--Brown Shoes22 15:39, 25 September 2006 (UTC)

  • I have updated the characters ages the best I can. Cheater1908 21:22, 26 September 2006 (UTC)