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[edit] Edward

[edit] Original Character Design

Is there a source for the information about the original character design, including the idea that the orginal character design is in one episode? Hackwrench 05:40, 18 June 2006 (UTC)

um isn't ein a girl?

[edit] Vicious

I added some information about him, mostly based on the guidebok 'The After' (ISBN4-04-853103-4). --Mufurc 13:12, 29 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Faye's gun

I could have sworn Faye Valentine carried a GLOCK 26, not a GLOCK 30? Orca1 9904 15:01, 15 September 2006 (UTC)Orca1_9904

[edit] Three Old Men

The article presumptuously states that in Episode 23-Brain Scratch the corpse of one of The Three Old Men (presumably Jobin) can be spotted. This is pretty objectionable, as the only frames we see of the corpse are shaded and there is hardly enough evidence (facial features? type and color of clothing?) to justifiably indicat it is one of the old men.

[1]

There are several sources which hint at the same but to say it is the gospel is a bit far. I mean the bloody shirt looks more white to me (whereas Jobin's is yellow) and I can't see any distinguishable facial marks. This statement should be at least changed to show there is no certainty.--70.65.187.113 22:33, 2 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Faye's article

I rewatched the Real Folk Blues episodes(and the whole series over the week) and I realised that Spike did NOT leave the ship to seek Julia when he upset Faye -who fired 5 shots into the ceiling- he had already found Julia and she was already dead. He left the ship in order to fight Vicous only! That's what upset Faye as she knew the possiblities of him not coming back. And yes she did know Julia was dead anyway because she heard everything Spike had said from round the corner. Therefore I took out the part about him seeking Julia as it was not correct, he only went to seek Vicous.


However that now means the sentence: "Though he comes to see her as a companion, Spike does not seem to have romantic feelings for Faye, as could be evidenced by his decision to seek and face Vicious in The Real Folk Blues, a decision which upsets Faye to the point where she fires her pistol into the ceiling five times as Spike leaves." doesn't realy make sense any more as it is no longer realy evidence if he only went to seek Vicous. So it needs rephrasing. Blindfold 09:04, 22 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Red Eye

I've been meaning to ask this for a long time... Why does everyone seem to believe that Vicious uses Red Eye? I mean, apart from the fact that he's a bad guy thus he's the first suspect by default. But other than that, we never see him having anything to do with Red Eye, except for smuggling it, during the time the story takes place, and there's no hint whatsoever that he was the one who used the vial on the table.

I can't check RFB at the moment, but in the flashback in episode 5 first we see Spike fighting with syndicate guys, firing first from a bouquet of roses; then a rose falling; the Red Eye on a table with roses; then in the next shot Spike is mowing people down. I know that the scenes are not necessarily in chronological order, but still, there's no Vicious in sight during the church fight, in fact, it seems to me that he wasn't even present (which is very possible if he's half as clever as we're expected to believe). While Spike draws the grenade out from his pocket we hear and see people firing at him, so he's definitely not in a duel with Vicious. I see no reason for Vicious to use Red Eye if he wasn't going to fight Spike one-on-one, which he apparently didn't do. (And let's not forget the roses: there are red roses beside the vial of Red Eye on the table. But why would've Vicious had roses? It was Spike who had a bouquet of roses, and I'm pretty sure he hadn't stopped by to give a few of them to Vicious.)

As for his appearance, it doesn't scream "Red Eye addict" to me... it screams "insomniac" and "psycho", neither of which have necessarily anything to do with Red Eye. Besides, apparently he's always had white hair and bags under his eyes, they just got worse after the incident with Spike and Julia. (Btw, according to my personal theory his appearance is more symbolic than anything, but that's a different matter.) And the "affinity towards Red Eye deals"... eh? IIRC he does it only once in the show, and that's because Gren requested to deal with him.

Anyway, I'd be glad if someone clarified this for me because the article heavily suggests that Vicious used Red Eye, but I see no proof of that anywhere. --Mufurc 14:35, 8 November 2006 (UTC)

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