Talk:List of California hurricanes

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Contents 1 Northern California or farther north? 2 Rename 3 References 4 Todo 5 Problem

[edit] Northern California or farther north?

Are there any reports of any kind of land effects from a tropical cyclone in northern California, or in the Pacific Northwest? CrazyC83 19:53, 19 October 2005 (UTC)

No. Typhoon Frieda became a frontal cyclone way out in the Pacific and hit Vancouver Island and the Pacific Northwest in October 1962 I think, but the only thing that made it different from any ordinary frontal cyclone is that it was once tropical.

The systems on this page are not frontal cyclones that evolved from hurricanes. They are the non-frontal remnants that either were a non cyclonic airmass or still had a circulation when they hit. Miss Madeline | Talk to Madeline 17:32, 20 October 2005 (UTC)

Yes, actually. Igancio redeveloped due to a shortwave aloft and TPC declared it extratropical due to a rejuvenation of central convection (what?! It's in their report though.) The cyclone lacked a surface front when it moved through northern California and the Northwest. Thegreatdr 21:01, 9 June 2006 (UTC)

The central convection which persisted was entirely aloft, not at the surface. Elevated convection results from radiational cooling destabilizing a warmer moist layer such as that which existed in the remnant of Ignacio.Tmangray 20:05, 29 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Rename

Since this article is a list I think it should correctly be called List of California hurricanes. Or maybe List of California tropical cyclones, since almost all of them were only tropical storms. Jdorje 05:59, 1 December 2005 (UTC)

Perhaps we could actually rename this to list of Western United States tropical cyclones. Some ePac storms affect Arizona without affecting California. Norma in 1970 is an example. They could be added to the list and keep it a featured list. I think that artificially dividing up what could be a long featured list into short ones that are closely related is a cheaty way of increasing their number. Miss Madeline | Talk to Madeline 19:33, 9 December 2005 (UTC)

Sounds fine. We can do another rename once the list is expanded. Though I'm not sure if it should be "List of west coast hurricanes" or "List of United States West Coast hurricanes" or "List of Western United States hurricanes". (It should be hurricanes, not tropical cyclones, as for instance it is Category:Florida hurricanes.) Now on a related note, what should the category be: Category:California hurricanes, or is a larger category desirable? Jdorje 16:15, 13 December 2005 (UTC)

IMO, Category:Western United States hurricanes is the best name because we don't really need to seperate California and Arizona, right? Hurricane Nora (1997) would be the only one in the Arizona category, and it would also go in the California category. The only difficulties with this idea is the work with renaming category:California hurricanes and perhaps possible confusion with category:Hawaii hurricanes. Miss Madeline | Talk to Madeline 21:52, 14 December 2005 (UTC)

There should be no title "California hurricanes" since there has never been such a thing, except POSSIBLY the storm in 1858 which anyway did not make landfall. We have our earthquakes, and hurricane envy is ridiculous. The most remarkable thing about California's summer weather is the ABSENCE of hurricanes thanks to the coldness of the offshore waters. Tmangray 19:19, 29 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] References

I'm unfamiliar with the Notes way of annotating an article, and am using ref as it appears the article had already begun this transition per earlier discussion. If this is a problem, can someone with the know-how convert either the refs to notes or the notes to refs, to keep it consistent? Thanks. Thegreatdr 21:07, 9 June 2006 (UTC)

Done, converted to <ref>s. Titoxd^(?!?) 21:50, 15 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Todo

What's up with the broken references? Jdorje 20:37, 12 January 2006 (UTC)

I fixed it... I used {{ref}} instead of {{note}}. Miss Madeline | Talk to Madeline 19:39, 13 January 2006 (UTC)

Because this is already a featured list, does this mean it is FA class? Hurricanehink 18:53, 17 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Problem

When the page was moved, it caused a problem with the peer review and FA thing at the top. Is there any way to fix it? Hurricanehink 18:59, 3 April 2006 (UTC)

Yes, it can be fixed by moving the peer review and FLC. Miss Madeline | Talk to Madeline 20:28, 3 April 2006 (UTC)

Oh, ok. Hurricanehink 20:37, 3 April 2006 (UTC)