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[edit] Synopsis

Ive been wanting to add some episode information to this, a small synopsis of each episode next to the current information. Ive got the every aired episode and could add the information myself but does anyone have any information about formatting the table that would make it look good? --Seth Turner 09:32, 24 April 2006 (UTC) Ive worked the formatting out and am about to begin, will prbably take a few hours i will update every ten eps or so so sorry if new work is overwritten in the process. --Seth Turner 14:19, 24 April 2006 (UTC)

Okay up to episode 20. Taking a break until tomorow, feel free to help out or clean up. --Seth Turner 15:59, 24 April 2006 (UTC)

Okay starting up again. Thanks Ynhockey for you help. I will be more carefull, and use the predetermined naming conventions.--Seth Turner 12:44, 25 April 2006 (UTC)


[edit] Template change

Sometime soon, i'll be changing the template for these episodes to the one seen in List of Samurai Champloo episodes 1-12. I'm going to try and get it done soon, but it might take a while. -- Makaio 20:56, 13 July 2006 (UTC)

That would be fine, but keep in mind that for that format to work effectively you need a summary for every episode, otherwise it's just a bloated version of the current format. Are you willing to write all the summaries? Because I'm not (for now, anyway). -- Ynhockey (Talk) 21:07, 13 July 2006 (UTC)
OBJECTION!!! A list of the current 88 Bleach episodes with detailed summaries on par with those in the article you linked to would be 344 kb long. Just to give you an idea of how long that is, the longest WP page, according to Special:Longpages, is only 349 kb long. You would have written the longest WP article ever by the time we hit episode 90. Cutting down the size by writing briefer summaries is of course possible, but unless you gave a summary of only 1-3 sentences per episode, it would still be obscenely long, and if you did give only 1-3 sentences per episode, why bother with the bloated new template anyway? --tjstrf 21:51, 13 July 2006 (UTC)
Look, I'm not going to be writing the huge episode summaries that I did on the Champloo page. What I will be doing is make a short and concise summary for each episode that is about as long as the ones that currently exist. No photos, no special stuff... just the summary. That is nothing new, the new stuff, is the separate pages that will have to be created. -- Makaio 22:03, 13 July 2006 (UTC)
P.S. this already looks better than the way it did. I think. -- Makaio 22:04, 13 July 2006 (UTC)

Anyway, that first arc is the only one i'll be doing today... maybe i'll get the original airdates in later tonight after work... but anyway, this has been done to see what the template will look like, I believe it looks fine, and that this fairly ambitious project will keep me busy in my early afternoons. If there are any concerns, don't worry, I'm fairly maleable... not physically though. -- Makaio 22:10, 13 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] New stuff

[edit] Summaries for Arc 2

I'm going to finish putting in the summaries for the second arc before I add the new template to the 3rd Arc. The summaries do need copyediting and wikifying... same as the rest of the article. I'll keep everyone updated as I go along, but for now I'm focussing on cleaning up the first and second arc. -- Makaio 00:06, 15 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Arc 3

I can't really remember what happened in some of the episodes for this arc. And I can't find any downloads to refresh my memory either, so when I finish this section, ynhockey or somebody else will have to do at least 5 episode summaries... sorry, but it's better than making up what happened. -- Makaio 06:29, 19 July 2006 (UTC)

Wait, you're writing these from memory? Isn't that a rather bad idea? Fortunately, I do have every episode of bleach so far. I'll add it to my list of things to do. --tjstrf 08:29, 19 July 2006 (UTC)
Nope, I downloaded the ep's I made summaries for, but for some reason 44-50 are almost non existant in the world of downloads, so if you could do them, it would be really cool. -- Makaio 06:05, 21 July 2006 (UTC)
I've been doing a Marathon of Bleach, and checking as I finish each episode. So far all the previously entered ones are accurate, and I've been filling in the missing ones. I just finished 67 and have copies of all through 79. - Hellmark 20:30, 31 August 2006 (UTC)
Thanks for the good work. -- Makaio 07:30, 6 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Thanks!

A big thank you to sandstorm6299, for expanding the template to all the other episodes. It is an incredibly mind numbing task and it was very kind of him to help. -- Makaio 23:19, 23 July 2006 (UTC)

No problem. Just helping out. Sandstorm6299 16:47, 24 July 2006 (UTC)

Another thank you goes out to ynhockey for all the editing he's been doing. I got some new episodes in so i'll be adding more summaries soon to keep you busy when you get back from Lebanon. -- Makaio 02:05, 28 July 2006 (UTC)

Actually I'm in a base close to Ashkelon so I am occasionally dispatched close to Gaza for traffic direction/control (directing our traffic so they don't take the wrong turn but instead end up in the combat/supply/whatever zone)... the joys of being in the military police... But I go home relatively often, as a non-combat. -- Ynhockey (Talk) 12:00, 28 July 2006 (UTC)

On a side note, can you please write long 'o's and 'u's properly? (ō and ū, respectively.) It will save a great deal of time. -- Ynhockey (Talk) 03:16, 30 July 2006 (UTC)

Yeah, sorry about that. I didn't really check back immediately on some of the stuff put down recently, sorry you had to do that big copyedit. -- Makaio 09:51, 30 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Bount arc

Alright, one month and 35 summaries later, we're at the bount arc. I don't have beginning episodes of this arc all the way up until Ichigo and company meet Ho and Ban. So if anyone has them, please do them, it would be nice. -- Makaio 22:59, 1 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Filler

I'm an avid watcher of the Bleach anime but I have just started reading the manga. Can someone inform me when the filler episodes begin in the anime? Thanks a lot. 132.203.54.36 17:51, 10 August 2006 (UTC)

Episode 63 is the last before the filler, as stated in the article. --Pentasyllabic 18:44, 10 August 2006 (UTC)


[edit] Most episode summaries complete

I've finished most of the summaries all the way up to episode 92. I'm still trying to find Bleach episodes that I still haven't made summaries for, after that I will start rewriting summaries for the first season. Meanwhile, I'd appreciate a good copyedit and some opinions on the summaries. Like if the summaries are too long, or if they don't make sense, tell me. -- Makaio 06:09, 12 August 2006 (UTC)


[edit] Dub episode titles

Since the episode titles for the Bleach dub seem to be quite different from the original Japanese translations, perhaps we should go the route of most other anime episode lists on Wikipedia and have both the English dub episode title and the translated title instead of just replacing the translated titles? -- Mumbo230 10:32, 3 September 2006 (UTC)

Agreed, replacing the original titles is pointless. --tjstrf 07:35, 4 September 2006 (UTC)
Alright, lemme check out some of the ways other anime's have done it and i'll get right on it.
Ok, so I don't know why the person who added the english titles and airdates didn't just put the translations in the japanese titles, but whatever. It's done now, I think anyone editing can follow what's been done. -- Makaio 04:30, 6 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Arc Names and Divisions

Arc names and divisions should not really be in this article unless there is some reliable source to cite; there's no basis for them and they are inconsistently titled/divided (4 here, 3 on the main Bleach (manga) page). I really think the most we should be doing is noting which episodes are filler. Dekimasu 13:52, 5 September 2006 (UTC)

I have no idea what the official arc names are, nor do I know if they are in the right place. The random people without user names added those in. But the arc names provide useful breaks so that you don't have to scroll through all the episode summaries. So let's keep them for now and make corrections to them as we go, the ambitious part of making all the episode summaries is over, now all thats left is smoothing over the creases. -- Makaio 04:08, 6 September 2006 (UTC)
I am pretty sure there are no official names. The really arbitrary one here is splitting the time in Soul Society into two arcs; it would make much more sense to take out "the rescue series," since there doesn't seem to be anything distinguishing it from the "the sneak entry." If anything, it's most simply the "save rukia" arc. I still think it would be good to mark the fillers as filler. Dekimasu 16:40, 6 September 2006 (UTC)
I don't think it's important to mark fillers as fillers - unless it's done in a small way, like a notice at the beginning of the section. There should definitely not be a section titled something like: Bount arc (filler) or Bount arc (non-canon) because this list deals with the anime and therefore manga information is less relevant. More importantly, one of the target audiences of this list are anime watchers who don't read the manga, and therefore it's not crucial to insert the filler notice. -- Ynhockey (Talk) 17:00, 6 September 2006 (UTC)

Yeah, so anyway, are you guys looking forward to reverting alot of stuff this weekend? -- Makaio 21:28, 6 September 2006 (UTC)

Every third, fourth, and fifth Bleach DVD has the arcs name written in English. So far there's AGENT of the SOUL REAPER, The Sneak Entry Series, The Rescue Series, and The Bount Series. In Japanese it's 死神代行篇, 尸魂界・潜入篇, 尸魂界・救出篇, and バウント篇. So what we should use on Wikipedia is: The Agent of the Soul Reaper Arc (1~20), Soul Society: The Rescue Arc (21~41), Soul Society: The Escape Arc (42~63), and The Bount Arc (64~79). The fifth DVD for The Bount Arc ends with episode 79, so episodes 80+ are of a different arc.
Unlike the first three arcs, the Bount arc has surpassed five DVD. So the Bount arc is 64~1??.Aarc one is 20 episodes long, arc two is 21, arc three is 22, and so far, arc four is 40 episodes long. The Bount arc is about twice as long as normal.

[edit] Meat In the Lines

Makaio's comments in the edits brought up an important point that I've been trying to make: You can't have it both ways without making new articles! This page is part of the WikiProject List of Television Episodes, and take a look at any of the featured articles... do you see any of them with meaty sentences for the list page? No! If you want to add "meats" to the episode, make a new article with all the meat you want while maintaining neutrality! The featured articles are featured for a reason... and don't you think we should try to head for that direction? -- Finestela 01:50, 7 September 2006 (UTC)

That's why I plan on retrimming those sections, because we really don't need all of that info in a list. --tjstrf 01:52, 7 September 2006 (UTC)


Look guys, I'm just thinking of what is the best summary for an episode. I'm not looking at the size... I'm looking at the quality. Kinda like the popular male-reasurance saying, "It's not the size, it's how you use it". I genuinely liked the edits that were made on all of the other episode summaries, they were crisp, clear, and concise; and I agree that epiosdes need trimming cause I expand way too much.

But the first two episodes felt like I was watching a narrative from the vernacular of the juggaknot: "This mofo Ichigo saves this lil bitch's spirit, then this crazy ho rukia ties his ass up, then he stabs her and takes her pimp powers, then he fucks some crazy suckanigga up. The next day Rukia acts a fuckin fool and demands shit on turf, Ichigo tells that bitch ta 'shut the fuck up!' as he caps another bitchnigga-spider hollow tryin ta get his way wit a lil boy."

I'm not kidding, I laughed my balls off when I was reading the first two episodes (shortness + imagination = weird). I will say this, Seth Turner needs to bow down and suck the toes of the person who cleaned up his other episode summaries, but the first two, were just as short and as pointless as that heap of crap up their in italics. It's not like the summaries for 1 and 2 were that long either, if you compaired them as if they were people, it's like transforming the already thin and starving looking Ichigo into a dying Etheopian.

And I'll actually address what Finestela said in this paragraph instead of randomly saying stuff. That we can't have it both ways... and I say, why not? I'll just come out and say it, we're technically working on a budget. That budget being personal willingness to contribute. And of the featured article episode lists, how many people do you think contributed consistently? 50? 100? Anyone who ever watched the show? We have maybe 4 or 5 people editing this page consistently. Also, if we are to ever try and nominate a Bleach-related article for a featured spot, Bleach (manga) would be the face of a nomination, and there are many other things to worry about other than an episode list when reviewers consider that for a featured article (although it is part of a review).

With what is entered now, we have recieved a "B" from the wikipedia anime and manga project for this article, as it is at this very moment. And this article has flaws, it is flawed up the ass. But, we have a complete list thanks to the labors of several contributing users; and it is our luxury to discuss the future of this list, rather than what still needs to be added to the list. So i'll say it again, I'm looking at quality, not quantity, I think ynhockey understood that and kindly fixed some of my stuff when I revisited it. So i'll leave it at that and look for a response sometime tomorrow after I get off work. -- Makaio has Jeans! 07:51, 7 September 2006 (UTC)

I'm just not so fond with the idea of "gradual clean up" so that we would finally reach the point of GA or A in a year or so (exaggeration, in case you're not getting it :P). If we're cleaning it up, why not just do it once and be done with it?
Granted, I HATE (not exaggerating) the way they did it in Oh My Goddess and Fullmetal Alchemist, which is why I'm actually modeling after Planetes + a bit more meat.
There are reasons why I'm deleting some of the phrases in ep. 1. Those things (Ichigo's age, house being clinic) are basic info that's irrelevent to the story! They're good info to know, yes, but as far as short, straight-to-the-point episode description is concern, they're not playing a huge part or have a huge impact on the story itself.
Of course, I agree there are parts (such as the part Rukia being wounded while trying to protect Ichigo's family) I've failed to include that should stay. However, I still believe that each episode description/short summary should simply include:
  • Basic plot
  • Side plot, if any
  • Conclusion
  • Leading into next episode, if any
  • Very simple definition/explanation of new and important terms that's tied directly with the plot (hollow, modify soul, Quincy, etc.)
For additional info, they should obtain it either by watching the episode or reading the article on the persons/places/terms.
Nevertheless, how much "meat" we should retain isn't really what we should be focusing on for now (we can revisit this issue AFTER we're done with the initial cleaning up, which may be weeks ahead, as a new wave of first-timers are coming... :P). I'm more concerned on who (singular and/or plural) will be doing the screenies for each episode... or if we're going to just stick the DVD cover for those with DVD out already... -- Finestela
Well there lies the problem we have between this episode list and individual articles. The "meat" is only about 2 paragraphs worth on average for about half of the episode summaries. If we were to make the individual episode summaries following the example on Planetes, most, if not all episode summaries would be a paragraph of stub... and I don't see why good info should be striken from a summary, especially when individual articles really seem out of the question as of right now. As for screencaps, I have some episodes so i'll look through and see what could be useful. -- Makaio 20:50, 7 September 2006 (UTC)
Ep. 1's summary is too long and looks out of place compared to the others, and has some excessive info. We don't really need Fishbone D's name, for instance. --tjstrf 22:06, 7 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] English Airdates

The English Airdates listed are not correct. Currently it is following when Cartoon Network's Adult Swim airs each English dub episode for the first time, but YTV's Bionix actually premieres each episode a day before it airs on Cartoon Network. So it should list the dates when YTV airs them.

From Bleach (manga):
"The English version of the Bleach anime premiered on Canada's YTV channel in the Bionix program block on September 8, 2006 at 10:30 p.m. EDT. This represented the show's official debut in North America. Cartoon Network's Adult Swim will begin airing the Bleach anime on September 9, 2006 at 12:30 a.m. EDT..."
--Silver Edge 00:52, 10 September 2006 (UTC)


I see you have already done the changes and I just want to give my support for this. The dates are there to say when an English episode was debuted which in this case is the Canadian release which is exactly the same as the USA one just one day earlier. Gdo01 01:56, 10 September 2006 (UTC)
Yeah! Take that all you date schticklers! -- Makaio 05:27, 10 September 2006 (UTC)


I have changed the English Airdates to the proper correct dates once again. Please keep in mind that in Canada, YTV's Bionix premieres each English dub episode of Bleach on Fridays, a day before it airs on Cartoon Network's Adult Swim.

From the Media information section at Bleach (manga):
"The English version of the Bleach anime premiered on Canada's YTV channel in the Bionix program block on September 8, 2006 at 10:30 p.m. ET. This represented the show's official debut in North America. Cartoon Network's Adult Swim began airing Bleach the following evening at 12:30 a.m. ET; the show has subsequently been moved to the midnight timeslot."

Also from the Anime section at Bleach media and materials:
"Bleach began broadcasting in Canada on September 8, 2006 on YTV and in the United States the following evening 12:30 a.m. on Adult Swim. Beginning October 29, 2006, Bleach will be airing on the 12:00 EST time slot."
--Silver Edge 10:22, 18 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] airdates

mhmm there's an error on the airdates of all the episodes it says the anime began on 2006 and it's 2005

The Viz dub begain airing in 2006. The Japanese version originally dubbed in 2004. These are the correct dates. -- Ynhockey (Talk) 18:46, 28 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Arc 5

Can someone please explain what's going on? Every time I check this page it's different. Either 109 is Arc 5 or not.

It's hard to tell so far. I think it's safe to leave the page in any state until the issue is cleared. My personal speculation is that it's not arc 5 yet. -- Ynhockey (Talk) 15:24, 11 December 2006 (UTC)
Does anyone have any indication to whether Arc 5 itself will be the beginning of the long-awaited arrancar arc or another long filler arc? 194.106.93.112 17:28, 11 December 2006 (UTC)
A filler arc is not likely considering the OPs and EDs of the Bount arc already show some arrancar, also the manga has gone far ahead of the anime series by now in order not to need a filler arc. -- Ynhockey (Talk) 18:16, 11 December 2006 (UTC)
I suggest we remove it from the "Arc 5" section b/c it is pure speculation at this point. Based on synopses I have heard, it will be a wrap up episode. My personal opinion says this arc is coming to a close (they are rushing the episodes at this point), but we must not dive into the realm of speculation. The great kawa 19:36, 11 December 2006 (UTC)
"The Terrifying Transfer Student"? Could this be Shinji? (and, by proxy, the Arrancar arc?) —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 143.239.179.12 (talk • contribs).
The two week break between 108 and 109 is currently the only proof that 109 is a separate arc. As for the above poster, all signs point to Shinji but we don't know yet. Gdo01 17:41, 12 December 2006 (UTC)
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