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I have some doubts about the 2006 information added by 141.213.130.145. What I've read is mostly the opposite--the Town Car may go front- or all-wheel-drive soon, while the Crown Victoria and Grand Marquis are likely to stay Panther-based for some time. RivGuySC 00:55, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)

I'd certainly like to see cites on speculative information - on such, we should especially ensure that the speculation reported is by others, rather than the Wikipedia authors themselves. Removed until we get some references. —Morven 04:07, Jun 6, 2005 (UTC)

Contents 1 Getting good 2 Good Article 3 Needs NPOV/OR/Crystal balling taken out. 4 Userboxes 5 Added Lincolns Online to the External Links area 6 NO redesign?

[edit] Getting good

Let's congratulate ourselves a little. It took a while, but this article is shaping up pretty nicely! RivGuySC 03:17, 8 November 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Good Article

Hi, I have noticed that our article seems to be quite well received by others (knock on wood) and is featued in the car portal. I think adding a "good article" tag as on the Ford Taurus or Lexus LS article would be arporiate. Let me know. Thank you. Signature^brendel 07:44, 19 February 2006 (UTC)

Yes, I think this is appropriate. I started the article two years ago, and it's been great to see so many people pitching in. Town Car owners & fans know their stuff! RivGuySC 22:53, 12 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Needs NPOV/OR/Crystal balling taken out.

There are a few assorted problems I noted in this article:

• Unencyclopedic POV -- Things like "the Town Car has earned its status," "generous dimensions," "continues to honor the time-tested luxury formula"
• OR -- goes hand in hand with the one above, editors are writing their own personal conclusions and ideas into the article, rather than citing those of authorities and reviewers.
• Crystal Balling -- "With the Wixom Assembly Plant closing in 2007, it is likely that the Town Car will end production as well." We're pulling that out of our ass if we include it. Yet another original conclusion.

This article has lots of information, but it needs to present it in a more encyclopedic form before it can get to featured quality.

Night Gyr 11:13, 15 March 2006 (UTC)

Okay, but "Generous Dimensions" is not POV. Have you seen the car? Generous proportions is just a very elegant way of saying huge or large or oversized. The car is a foot longer than the Caddi DTS. Saying "Generous Dimension is the best way of describing the vehicle. Also the "time-tested luxury formula is a quote from NCTD- I'll make sure it stands out in the text as such. Concerning the Wixom plant there is no "Crytsal Balling." Ford said in its press release a few weeks back thst it plans to close Wixom in 2007. Whether or not that means the end of production for the Town Car we do not know. Regards, Signature^brendel 17:17, 15 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Userboxes

I recently created a Lincoln Town Car userbox for my userpage and thought I would post an example of it here. Enjoy!

Thanks. Regards, Signature^brendel 05:05, 21 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Added Lincolns Online to the External Links area

Lincolns Online is a near-real-time source for Lincoln Town Car information. They have a message forum that provides invaluable repair informaiton along with technical articles on repairing and restoring these vehicles to like new (or better in many cases). The founder of the site is DaKat and the chief mechanical engineer is Dereck. I figure I've saved about $3000 in repair/diagnostic costs by visitng the site, researching, and chatting with others. It is a must if it involves the Town Car. (This unsigned comment was left by 68.204.147.169)

Yes, forums can be very helpful and often professionals are among those participating in the featured discussions. So, while Lincolns online may have a great forum with knowledgable members, Wikipedia policy states rather clearly that Forum should not be featured in the "External links section" as they are not exclusively written by professionals and do not have strict NPOV policies. You see, the external links sections is like a "Further suggested reading" section, it refers those you would like to research an article's subject more to professionally written articles on the subject. Thank you for understanding, if you would like to do more research on wiki policy regarding this subject I'll be more than glad to provide you with the link. Regards, Signature^brendel 05:58, 25 April 2006 (UTC)

Hopefully the policies will change to make Wikipedia.org worthwhile. Most of the articles are not written by "professionals" unless "self-proclaimed" means something. NPOV policies are vague at best. Sorry you all feel that offended and jarred by including the best Lincoln Site on the Internet on your page. (This unsigned comment was left by 12.151.80.14, who is likely the same user that appeared earlier under the IP number, 68.204.147.169)

I don't feel offend myself, I am merely stating that links to forums are froned upon by Wiki policy. But since there is no clear policy on the issue I am going to leave the link in. Thank you. Regards, Signature^brendel 20:34, 27 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] NO redesign?

Why is the Town Car production just being moved instead of redesigned? Cadillac's deVille,now DTS has undergone at least 3 changes since the Town Car was new in 1998. The body is almost 9 years old and people must be sick of looking at this same body style. What are Ford's plans? 15:34, 5 October 2006 (UTC)

Well I of course am inarmored with the current body style and from the comments I get most people seem to take to it. But my POV aside, Ford has not yet anounced any plans to redesign the Town Car. (I do agree with you it is time for a re-desgin after 8 years, even though I love the current one ;-)) PS. Look at a DTS from the side, its a 2000 Deville. Happy editing! Signature^brendel 20:52, 5 October 2006 (UTC)

The current body style is absolutely gorgeous but of course its time for some sort of change. 2006 would have been a good time to redesign instead of a name change and facelift on the DTS. I somehow feel that if Town Car sales do not remain brisk under the current body style, we will be faced again with the possiblity of its demise maybe in 2009 or 2010. This is another reason Ford should consider investing in a redo. 09:40, 13 October 2006 (UTC)

True, Ford really is milking the Town Car for profits instead of investing into a complete redesign to revitalize sales. Signature^brendel 17:35, 13 October 2006 (UTC)

Fear not, faithful ones. There are plans for the Town Car in '08 and '10. Of course, plans can and do change, as the automotive marketplace and consumer preferences shift. But one can assume that, in general, Ford will tend to continue to invest in profitable programs, and tend to abandon unprofitable ones. There are an awful lot of baby-boomers entering empty-nest retirement age, and boomers have a taste for powerful, cool looking sporty-luxury cars, with lots of surprise-and-delight gadgets and features and innovative driver conveniences (and space), which also happen to make for great bragging points when heading for the golf course or the hunting-lodge cabin out in the country with friends. Be brave, Gerbrendel-meister. Enough said. --T-dot 18:46, 13 October 2006 (UTC)