Talk:Limpieza de sangre
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I am surprised to read that you relate "limpieza de sangre" to the Basque issue and nationalism. The concept of "limpieza de sangre" is basically and historically related to the Conversos or Cristianos Nuevos who converted from Judaism in Spain. The degree of integration into Christian society depended also on the number of generations that could be counted since the original conversion.
- "Ethnic Christian"--what a concept! Sweetfreek 02:19, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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- It's indeed quite imbecile to conect ethnicity to religion. But what did the Nazis did? And still today the concept of anti-semetism/anti-judaism "works"!
[edit] The Moors Were Not "Arabs"
The ancient Moors are not to be confused with Arabs. Arabs are native to the Arabian Peninsula not North West Africa. Yes, the Moors were Muslims and spoke Arabic, but the religion of Islam and aspects of its culture can be accepted by every race and nationality. The ancient Moors were North African Berbers and what anthropologists classify to have been of the "Caucasoid" persuasion. Similar to ancient Egyptians, Carthaginians and so on.
Yes, they did have an Arab common class (which represented a very small minority of the demographic) and Subsaharan slaves (which again made up an insignificant part of the over all Moor demographic) that they indeed had brought to the Iberian peninsula and yes, they did introduce the majority of the Jewish population to Iberia.
Based on these facts, I call for an editing on that particular part of this article. In my opinion "Arab" should be simply changed to Moor or Muslim.
Further, I am not entirely (although somewhat) acquainted with the work of Sabino Arrana and the Basque Nationalist movement. However, I doubt very highly that "racial impurity" (in a non-European sense) was/is a common theme. The Basques view themselves as being unique to that of all of Europe. Highlighting their own ethnic/culture uniqueness and "purity" rather than really spewing rhetoric of the possibility of "mixed lineages" of the rest of Iberians and the French. They tend to focus on the impacts the Celts, Romans, Visigoths, etc. had on the ethnic construct of Iberia and France. For example, Arrana commonly referred to Spaniards as the "Sons Of Romans" not the Moors. To make a long story short, the case they make more so is that the Basques, unlike the vast majority of Europeans, are (in their opinion) only Basque; Not a variety of different European Nationalities.
Also, The Moors, militarily, did reach various areas of what are considered to be areas of Basque territory (although not successfully occupying these areas). So, there is an argument that can be made that there are areas of Spain that were even further secluded from the Moors more so than the Basque country. The regions of Galicia/Asturias (Asturies), for example, can be argued to have had less Moorish presence as compared to particular areas the Basque territory. Thus, this poorly articulated argument and unproven theory that all Iberians other than the Basques are "mixed" with the ancient Moors is rather flawed and I think unnecessary in an article that is supposed to be focused on a totally different historic issue.
