User talk:Lethaniol

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FOR DISCUSSION ON BOOYAKADELL SEE - User talk:Lethaniol/BooyakaDell Lethaniol 23:18, 12 December 2006 (UTC)

Contents 1 Re: Be Nice to Noobs 2 Criteria 3 Adoptees 4 Adoption 5 Mediation Cabal 6 Wikilogos 7 Quick question on sources 8 CSD Templates 9 RE: Culverin

[edit] Re: Be Nice to Noobs

Hello there, sorry for the delay, I have been pretty busy everywhere. You recommendation sounds fine, but I don't think it may be accepted. The CSD category is usually filled with articles, most times over 100 articles. And because few admins actually work there, having to spend some more seconds to slap the correct tag in the deleted articles can be considered, under some opinions, a waste of time. Personally, I always put the correct tag in the user talk page, and I notice that about 80% of the users who put a speedy tag in the article also warn the user about why the article is being deleted.

If you want this to be accepted, I suggest to check the different templates for user talk pages, and begin writing more for every speedy criteria (in example, {{nn-notice}} is good if you are tagging an article about a non notable subject, but after it was deleted, there is no {{nn-deleted-notice}} that says something like "The article XXXX has been deleted because it lacks notability assertion..." If you create them, I will gladly use them. Right now, I just use the nn-* ones. I believe, also, that if you create them, more administrators would use them to inform newbies about the deletions, as that would be almost automatic. Cheers! -- ReyBrujo 16:27, 21 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Criteria

I have cast my vote. The reason that I have been going on about autoblocks - which I see you have taken on board - is becasuse earlier this year I got hit by four of them in a period of two weeks! I was not happy!!--Anthony.bradbury 16:57, 10 December 2006 (UTC)

You add {{unblock}} with reason in freetext to your talk page and an admin shows up and sorts it.

I can live with 500 edits, but would like to repeat my stipulation about home pages. I have found occasional editors who change their own page on an almost daily basis, and can rack up a respectable edit count without going much into mainspace, let alone namespace. And bear in mind that a lot of newby questions relate to concerns within the namespace/policy axis.

The two mult-adopters do not seem to relating much to their adoptees, although who, if anybody, is at fault is open to question. And to be fair, my two adoptees only asked one question each.

I think the scheme is going along just fine. it will need constant pushing - if we do not agitate the idea will stagnate.

We do need to adapt that specimen template to allow {{subst}}. If that is not done, it only takes an editor to change the message on one example, and they all change throughout the whole encyclopedia.--Anthony.bradbury 17:24, 10 December 2006 (UTC)

OK. But the advice not to {{subst}} it needs to be removed. As I say, if we use the raw template, then any vandal who wants to can change the template on the page of every single user who has accessed it, which will cause absolutely endless trouble.--Anthony.bradbury 18:19, 10 December 2006 (UTC)

ALL DISCUSSIONS ON BOOYAKADELL HAS BEEN MOVED TO User talk:Lethaniol/BooyakaDell - leave messages there - Lethaniol 23:17, 12 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Adoptees

I think the scheme is taking off. I ran through all six of the editors asking to be adopted, and every single one was adopted by someone else before I could finish typing in my welcome message!--Anthony.bradbury 01:06, 14 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Adoption

I can take all 6. I've only been here 3 months but without blowin my own trumpet, i am pretty much able. Ta. FrummerThanThou 05:56, 14 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Mediation Cabal

If you are seeking mediation, please complete the form: Wikipedia:Mediation Cabal/Cases/2006-12-11 BooyakaDell. You need to list the articles that you are asserting are part of the mediation dispute. Alan.ca 08:26, 14 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Wikilogos

I thought you also might be interested in my proposal for Wikipedia to use logo variations created by members of the wiki community to mark national and international awareness days, Remembrance Days, notable anniversaries, and observance days. Please comment on Wikipedia:Village_pump_(proposals)#Logo Variations and on my talk page. Thanks! FrummerThanThou 10:45, 14 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Quick question on sources

I know Wikipedia allows the use of offline sources, including books and newspapers. I've even seen newspapers dating back to the 1940s used as references, so it doesn't matter how difficult they may be to track down providing they exist and are verifiable in theory at least.

I'm having great difficulty tracking down an online source that shows a particular wrestler was injured during a match, I can't find any English sources for it and any Japanese (it was a Japanese wrestler, and happened in Japan) sources are beyond my capability. I've seen the incident in question, and it includes the wrestler being taken away in an ambulance. If I include the full information about the show (channel, air date etc) can that be used as a reference? It's as difficult to track down as an old newspaper or obscure out-of-print book, but it is possible. 81.155.178.248 11:45, 15 December 2006 (UTC)

Hi User:81 - I agree - no matter how old the source it can be used - otherwise we would not be able to have an article on the Magna Carta. I suppose if I was you, I would write up the info in the article, ref the show, as you have the info (from what you said above), and then make a comment in talk page along the lines above. If anyone challenges you on this, you can go look for an English ref in more depth, or maybe even ask for a Japanese source to be translated (probably partially to get the gist). Well that's how I would approach the situation - note I had a similar situation with the Mila-18 naming problem with Catch-22#Explanation of the novel's title - took a while but eventually found the primary source while looking for other things. Hope that helps. Cheers Lethaniol 12:47, 15 December 2006 (UTC)

Thanks. It's not so much the age of the source, more the difficulty tracking it down. But as long as it's possible (which it is), then I don't see the problem. It's very difficult to track down an online Japanese source as I don't know the Japanese version of Ryuji Yamakawa (for example Kenta Kobashi is 小橋建太), and I've Google searching his name and only returning results in Japanese, but I can't find any information on a few relevant sites I've looked at with the translator. I wouldn't use a TV show generally, but all other efforts have failed and it is quite important. 81.155.178.248 13:10, 15 December 2006 (UTC)

Finally found a Japanese source anyway, but thanks for the help. 81.155.178.248 13:31, 15 December 2006 (UTC)

No problem - pop by anyway time. I know this recent situation is not helping, but if you are making lots of edits I hope you can one day sign up as a registered user. Cheers Lethaniol 14:37, 15 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] CSD Templates

RE: yes, I realized it as soon as I added headline there again, so I removed it immediately until some kind of consensus will be reached. ≈Tulkolahten≈^≈talk≈ 14:50, 15 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] RE: Culverin

I was just thinking that last night. I did not know that the "cut off" was 1000 edits though, we celebrated that a while ago... Thanks for your interest and concern. I see your doing a great job with WP:ADOPT as well. Cheers, Dfrg.msc ^{1 . 2 . Editor Review} 22:06, 15 December 2006 (UTC)