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Thank very much-will check it out laterMelbob 06:17, 28 November 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Master Servant Acts

Master Servant Act is very topical with the current Industrial relations Changes. I doubt there is much on the internet. A Library might be your best bet, especially books on labour history. Okay, I've just done a visual check of all the indexes of the journal Labour History and only one article leaped out at me. I would have thought someone would have done an analysis of the Master Servant Acts as part of Labour history.Mmmm. The only article I found was in Labour History number 16, May 1969. Newcastle Miners and The Master and Servant Act, 1830-1862 by J.W. Turner.--Takver 13:39, 29 November 2005 (UTC)

I have created a page on the Master and Servant Act. I reckon there is still room for expansion.--Takver 16:02, 29 November 2005 (UTC)

The 1902 Master and Servant Act sounds like something that should be loaded to wikisource. It can then be linked from the Master and Servant Act Wikipedia page as a source text. Perhaps read the requirements for loading source texts at wikisource, but I would think the text would be more imnportant than preserving the original typography. I would be certainly interested in looking through the Act.--Takver 10:09, 6 December 2005 (UTC)

Thanks for scanning the images. I have downloaded them to read/print myself. Give me a hoy if you need help loading the act to wikisource, although I'm a newbie there as well.--Takver 05:04, 7 December 2005 (UTC)

Thankyou for scanning and transcribing the text of the Act. I can appreciate the work involved. I have now put links between the Wikipedia article and the 1902 Act and vice versa. It took me a little while to grapple with the correct linking templates. Not much use has been made of wikisource for Australian articles so far, which is a bit of a shame. --Takver 07:46, 9 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Lazlo Toth, vandal

In view of your comment on my talk page I have changed the speedy deletion notice to an AFD, and you can enter your comment on the Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Lazlo Toth, vandal page. Stifle 00:49, 12 December 2005 (UTC)

Thank you for your further comments. Please see WP:CIV. Stifle 00:53, 12 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Melbourne Hotels

Thanks very much for that information. I'm glad people have found that Hotels sub-page. At the moment, it's just a storage space for all the bits of information I come across. Eventually, I'll make it into a proper page. The 'Dover' of which you speak sounds like the Devonshire Arms, which I've written about in that article. There's a photo of it too. I agree that St Vincents have probably destroyed a lot of the important old buildings in that area - just like the housing commission flats nearby. If you manage to track down that article from The Sun, I'd be very interested in having a look. Maybe if you can give me a reference number or something.

By the way, I also noticed you've made a start on Clifton Hill Community Music Centre. Great work. I've been meaning to get around to this for quite some time. Cnwb 05:34, 15 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Image:Youngcostello.gif listed for deletion

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[edit] Attilio Guarracino

You bio of Attilio is extremely thorough - more information than I had, for sure. I was wondering whether anyone has in hand a biography of Donald Friend or Jeff Smart - it would be an excellent handle for an overview of that whole generation of artists, and it should be done now, while people like AG are still around. DF would be the more obvious subject, because of the diaries. Back to your article on AG, my only concern is that you tell where he's currently living - I think this could be bordering on an invasion of privacy, even tho you only give a suburb.

Incidentally, I'm a bit curious as to why you felt AG merited an article - he has had an interesting life I guess.PiCo 01:54, 18 January 2006 (UTC)

So I phoned Curtis Brown (the literary agents) and said what did they think of the commercial prospects of a biography, and got the predictable response that they'd have to see something. DF would be by far the better subject - he's famous - but in his case there'd be the problem of getting the agreement of the estate, and I suspect that the estate already has someone lined up. I'm not a professional biographer, but competition is fierce among those who are - the ratio of biographers to biographees is seriously unbalanced - and it would be hard to get the agreement. JF, I don't know about - more highly regarded than DF, but judging from his autobiography, a less interesting person. I'll file this away in the back of my mind :) PiCo 02:55, 18 January 2006 (UTC)

I'm not in a financial position to employ anyone, not even for an hour a week :). Writing just doesn't pay. But if you'er ;iterate (and I can see you are), why not try doing a little freelancing? This is what I do - articles in small-circulation magazines, with photos provided (which makes the articles more saleable). I get about $300 for an average article, though add in a few nice photos and that comes to $600. No great way to provide for retirement, but fun and a useful litle source of pocket money if you're already retired, as I am. From your posts here you seem to have a wied range of interests. See if there aer any magazines that cover the same areas (Ausrtalian ones to start) and phone the editors offering articles - ones already written, preferably with illustrations. They usually accept things by email, no need for SAEs these days. PiCo 04:06, 18 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Tch Tch Tch

Maybe you could give this a try: → ↑ →. Cnwb 03:30, 19 January 2006 (UTC)

Glad to help - it's good to see someone wikifying this important, and often overlooked, music scene. Cnwb 03:52, 19 January 2006 (UTC)

Could one of you two edit that article to make it a bit clearer why Tch³ are notable? Ta, Ben Aveling 04:02, 19 January 2006 (UTC)

At the moment, I'm assuming that Philip Brophy, David Chesworth, Clifton Hill Community Music Centre and Essendon Airport (band) are actually notable but for some reason that currently escapes me. Could you just make my life simple and actually tell me which of the ticks at Wikipedia:Notability (music) these guys hit? Thanks, Ben Aveling 06:31, 19 January 2006 (UTC)

If you're trying to win me over with flattery and charm, it's not working. I don't care if they were brilliant or if they sucked. I just want to know that they were more important than they are overlooked. Just let me know what their importance was, that's all. Regards, Ben Aveling 06:51, 20 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Athenaeum

Thanks for the comments on my talk page. The building is certainly old but I do not know enough about early Melbourne to know what if anything that was built before 1842 still stands. Also, the front was rebuilt later. I think the brief history I referenced is accurate. I am a member of the Athanaeum library so I know the building fairly well. Bduke 04:24, 23 January 2006 (UTC)

The refurbishing of the front in 1885/86 is mentioned. I do not think the library should have a separate entry. The various things that go on in the building are very much bound up together. There is for example a committee that runs the Athanaeum, concentrating on the library amd the building but it has representatives of the theatre. To many in Melbourne it is just the Ath - library, theatre, whatever. --Bduke 04:36, 23 January 2006 (UTC)

Not too sure about your last message. I think the Melbourne Athanaeum is important and always has been important since it was founded. This includes the library, the art gallery, and the theatre. I hope the article brings out the importance of all activities in the Athanaeum. If it does not, let us see how we can improve it. It is not necessary to split up the various parts of the Athanaeum. --Bduke 04:49, 23 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Sockpuppetry

I have been with the 'pedia for almost 5 years and an Administrator for almost 3 - in that time i have had to face nationalist squabbles, the actions of Marxist apologists, right wing Cold Warriors and the multiple sockpuppetry and vandalism of people like User:DW and User:Lir. Please forgive me for my sensitivity. PMA 04:35, 7 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Cut and paste move

Hi, you just moved List of extinct and endangered animals of Lithuania to List of extinct and endangered species of Lithuania via cut and paste. Since this kind of moves destroyes the page history, it is better to move the page via the page move process, see Help:Moving a page. I will tag the page for repair of your cut and paste move by an administrator, so the contributors can be acknowledged at the new title of the page. See here for an explanation of the repair process. Happy editing, Kusma (討論) 03:32, 15 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Bodgie

Grutness I'd like to set a seperate page for 'Bodgie' but I believe you have redirected it to 'Greasers'. I have nothing against this except there is now no where for the australian phenomenon to be separately discussed. Could you please make the sperate 'bodgie' page availible?

Well, you're half-right. I just created it as a redirect, though - there wasn't a separate page before that. If you want to start the new page then click Bodgie then click on the blue link at the top of Greasers that says "Redirected from Bodgie" (which will take you to the redirect page itself) and edit the redirect it like you would an ordinary article - take out the #Redirect link and add whatever you think should be there. You can probably take some of the information from the Greasers page to start it (you should also add a "See also" section for that article). BTW Bodgie and Widgie are/were common NZ terms too. And be sure to refer to "The Newcastle Song" in the article! :) Grutness...wha? 06:05, 21 March 2006 (UTC)

Hope you get the record right with Bodgies & Widgies. I saw a lot of them in Auckland in the 1950s & 60s. They hung around Queen Street & were in motorbike gangs. In fact, I think having a bike was a prerequisite, the bigger the better - Triumph 650 was the most popular. Because of that they all wore leather jackets. Widgies were the female equivalent, & just hung around with the bodgies. GrahamBould 12:50, 20 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] PKD

Please review the talk page and comment appropriately. This has nothing to do with content and everything to do with presentation (See also: WP:LEAD, WP:1SP). The Template:QuoteSidebar should never be added to the lead section of any article, although I notice that there are at least two articles that do this. There are a multitude of issues with doing so, including the problem of display. Please use the QuoteSidebar in the body of the article. —Viriditas | Talk 04:33, 23 March 2006 (UTC)

Thank you for making the article easier to read. —Viriditas | Talk 05:11, 23 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] WP:AFL

Hi mate, I suggest you check out the WikiProject AFL site, as well as Category:VFL/AFL players. Drop me a line with any questions you may have. Cheers, R o gerthat ^Talk 23:15, 23 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] John Zarb

Thanks for starting this one. Have expanded it and added references.--Takver 13:33, 12 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Relax

Please, calm down. Actually, I am a going to major in history and I pride myself in my knowledge. I am sorry if I sounded abrasive, but you need to state in the article. I am sure he has had a key role in history like Ebernezer MacIntosh, but he doesn't have a page. We need to view it from the standpoint of someone who has no knowledge of the subject. Please treat all matters in an intelligent way. Thank you. Yanksox 04:10, 18 May 2006 (UTC)

Please explain how I am proud and ignorant? I'm actually a somewhat self consious person, like Quentin from The Sound and the Fury. Also, the nation I reside in was the one I was born in. I really didn't have a decision in where I am from or how people behave. I have no effect and American Foreign Policy and I think it has been a disaster since 1948. Yanksox 04:04, 19 May 2006 (UTC)

I really don't appreciate how you are extremly ignorant and attack me. Is it that far fetched to form a reasonable argument? Or is calling me a moron the most logical statement you can form? Yanksox 04:15, 19 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Incivility

Regarding edits such as this: Please do not make personal attacks on other people. Wikipedia has a policy against personal attacks. In some cases, users who engage in personal attacks may be blocked from editing by admins or banned by the arbitration committee. Comment on content, not on other contributors or people. Please resolve disputes appropriately. Thank you. --InShaneee 04:25, 19 May 2006 (UTC)

No, the community as a whole 'dictates' what goes on articles. As you'll see on the main page of this site, wikipedia is the free encyclopedia that anyone can edit, regardless of race, religion, sex, or nationality. So no, you don't get any more say on an Australian article than an 18 year old american. I would suggest civilly discussing whatever issues you may have with him on the article's talk page and attempting to reach consensus or compromise. --InShaneee 04:33, 19 May 2006 (UTC)

If other editors agreed with him and followed the policies of the site, then yes, in theory, he could. As long as policies and guidelines are followed, users are to be treated equally, ignoring age and nationality. For example, I'm a 21 year old american, I've never heard of the port philip association, and I'm telling you again not to call other users 'ignorant' or you may be temporarily blocked from editing for being incivil. --InShaneee 04:41, 19 May 2006 (UTC)

And so we see another famous example of InShaneee having a argument with himself! --Avillia ^{(Avillia me!)} 04:48, 19 May 2006 (UTC) _{Disclaimer: This is a joke.}

[edit] 3RR violation

Regarding your 8 recent reverts to William Sams:

You have been temporarily blocked for violation of the three-revert rule. Please feel free to return after the block expires, but also please make an effort to discuss your changes further in the future. Note also that removing tags without discussion is in the vast majority of cases considered vandalism. --InShaneee 04:50, 19 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] William Sams

I agree with keeping this article as you know, and don't think it should have been proposed for AfD. I can understand your frustration, but I strongly recommend a reasoned debate to put the points across and sticking to the facts. Personal imputations will only weaken the case. As you can see, there has been a good response for keeping the article. Tyrenius 09:28, 21 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Sams image

Thanks for going to all that effort of finding WS image. Much appreciated as it should save the entry from the onslaught of the ignorant. Lentisco 04:31, 21 May 2006 (UTC)

Lentisco, no worries. But please refrain from comments such as this which was made after your block expired. I suggest you read Wikpedia's policies on civility, no personal attacks, assume good faith and three-revert rule. You were blocked specifically for breaking the 3RR, but run the risk of further sanctions if you don't show more respect to other editors. Remember that anyone has the right to make a nomination for deletion if they believe there are grounds to do so, and while I also support retention of the article, User:Yanksox and User:InShaneee have nothing to apologise for. -- I@n ≡ talk 09:38, 21 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Personal attacks

Please stop your personal attacks [1] [2] [3]. I appreciate that you feel that other editors are just arguing for deletion because of ignorance, but it's possible to portray this with civility, without causing unnecessary friction and I ask you to exercise your good judgement to do so. --Tony Sidaway 16:25, 21 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Vandalism to the United States Declaration of Independence

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Please stop!

Please do not add nonsense to Wikipedia. It is considered vandalism. If you would like to experiment, use the sandbox. Thank you. - CrazyRussian talk/contribs/email 02:34, 22 May 2006 (UTC)

Please don't be angry. Consider reviewing WP:POINT and WP:COOL - CrazyRussian talk/contribs/email 02:36, 22 May 2006 (UTC)

The difference between William Sams and The Declaration of Independence is that the later actually outlined why it was notable. When you wrote the article you presumed that people knew about you. You didn't state notability. Other users have done that and I have reversed my vote for deletion. Unlike you, I believe I can be openminded. I am willing to move past this if you drop whatever vandetta you have agaisnt me. Yanksox 02:36, 22 May 2006 (UTC)

I am not trying to attack you. I am just trying to revert vandalism where I see it, and to prevent reoccurrence as best I can. If you've got beef with other editors, I strongly advise you to go drink a latte, watch your favorite cartoon/sitcome/whatever, and then return to editing WP refreshed, and with a new supply of friendliness. We're here to build an encyclopedia, not to be at each others' throats. - CrazyRussian talk/contribs/email 02:43, 22 May 2006 (UTC)

LOL. Stop trying to make a WP:POINT. Your position is understood and appreciated. The Sams AfD is proceeding for an overwhelming keep - so forgive the Americans for not knowing and being a little quick with the delete button, and don't compound one sin by committing another. - CrazyRussian talk/contribs/email 02:48, 22 May 2006 (UTC)

You have vandalised it a third time. Enough. Here's your third-level warning.

Please stop. If you continue to vandalize pages, you will be blocked from editing Wikipedia. - CrazyRussian talk/contribs/email 02:51, 22 May 2006 (UTC)

I am sure you will agree that the comment on the article talk page was posted just to make a point, and is therefore unproductive and your Nth violation of WP:POINT. Enough. It's not censorship - it's simply that that page is not an approriate forum for you to vent your frustration with what happened. Please use my talk page for that :) Please remove the comment yourself - or I will have to do this for you. Unfortunately, you're moving closer to another block, this time for persistent vandalism. Let's be constructive 100% of the time, in all our edits. PLEASE. - CrazyRussian talk/contribs/email 03:19, 22 May 2006 (UTC)

I had to take it out, b/c someone attacked you there for your comment! :) Please, let's be reasonable. - CrazyRussian talk/contribs/email 03:23, 22 May 2006 (UTC)

I don't ban, I report, and I am going to great lengths here to avoid this, in part b/c I think your grievances are meritorious - CrazyRussian talk/contribs/email 03:25, 22 May 2006 (UTC)

I'm blocking you for forty-eight hours for trolling, incivility and edit warring despite ample warnings and a prior block for edit warring. --Tony Sidaway 16:12, 22 May 2006 (UTC)

Just to make it clear, I didn't not ask Tony or anyone else to block you. - CrazyRussian talk/contribs/email 16:49, 22 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Gippsland massacres

Do you have any sources related to the Gippsland massacres article? --cholmes75 (chit chat) 15:41, 26 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Henry Arthur

You just came off a block! You're unbelievable...

Please see Wikipedia's no personal attacks policy. Comment on content, not on the contributor; personal attacks damage the community and deter users. Note that continued personal attacks may lead to blocks for disruption. Please stay cool and keep this in mind while editing. Thank you. - CrazyRussian talk/contribs/email 17:55, 26 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Antique description of Christ euphemism

I had a look at Thesaurus dot com but didn't come up with anything that would clearly be better than the word antique, although that word looks quite odd there as you admitted. No reason for this comment. Grumpyyoungman01 05:12, 8 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Buttlejorrk

I found the info in the Encyclopedia of Melbourne. There's another town I want to create an entry for, but I can't remember it's name off-hand. It was near Thomastown, and was demolished to make way for the Hume Highway. I love learning about whole towns that were demolished to make way for some huge infrastructure - something spooky about it - ghost towns that have completely disappeared. Cnwb 23:59, 2 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] William Darke

Sorry Lentisco, my error. Also, I didn't realise that I accidentally changed your correction - that was also an error on my behalf. Cnwb 04:07, 24 July 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] Copyvio

Please do not cut and paste copyrighted text into Wikipedia as you did on John Bowen (colonist). The Australian Dictionary of Biography is a copyrighted source and tha copyright needs to be respected.--Peta 03:35, 2 August 2006 (UTC)

Just use the history tab to get to an old version. But the history of the page has to be deleted.--Peta 03:43, 2 August 2006 (UTC)

You should add a refernce to the source, per WP:CITE. I will delete the copyvio and replace it with this version.--Peta 04:30, 2 August 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] The Sun News-Pictorial

Are you sure about the Sun never having editorials - i was looking at microfiche of 70s-era issues of its sister paper The Herald and they have editorials - wouldn't make sense for its sister paper not too. PMA 19:21, 10 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Clifton Hill Community Music Centre

Keep an eye out for the October 2006 issue of The Wire magazine, wherein Jon Dale writes about the Clifton Hill Community Music Centre [4]. The airmail copies usually cost about $18, but if you wait a few months, you can pick up the surface-mail copies for about $12. Cnwb 07:21, 14 October 2006 (UTC)

Hey Lentisco, surface-mail copies of that issue of The Wire have just hit the newsagents. I picked it up today. Keep an eye out. Cnwb 02:28, 30 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Central Hall

Hi Lentisco, Thanks for the message. I'll be happy to write something about Central Hall, but I'm a little unsure about what I can include. I've noticed that there's some issue with including original research in Wikipedia entries, and that seems to conflict with my personal background with Central Hall. What is worse, my work has not been published to date.

So in short, do you know what 'original research' actually entails? Does it simply mean that the analysis and opinions that I made in my history of Central Hall cannot be included? How about the basic facts - Am I able to refer to a newspaper article from 1903 as a legit reference, for example?

Many thanks, Rob Lindsey 05:40, 28 November 2006 (UTC)

Thanks heaps for the positive feedback, glad to share a digestible portion of my research (though I do hope to improve it quite a bit when I have more time). Mannix definitely lectured at the hall - I've found references to speeches relating to Irish Home Rule, but not sure about the anti-conscription side of things. Still, it does make good sense that his activism amongst the Catholic Labor Party faithful of Melbourne would have centred on events at the hall. If you do have some direct reference to this, definitely let me know or put in an edit. Cheers, Rob Lindsey 09:48, 11 December 2006 (UTC)

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