Talk:Legion of Doom (hacking)
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[edit] membership
I believe Phiber Optik and Dead Lord were in LOD. Dead Lord was a well known hacker/phreak from the 1980's...I don't know why you would say he wasn't.
I think Lex is the end authority on who was/wasn't. We really need to ask him if there is a discrepency. I don't know if I can reach him, probably not.
[edit] article name
There's really no need for "hacking" to be capitalized in the article's name. I'll change it back later. --Myles Long 04:10, 21 February 2006 (UTC)
[edit] membership
Phiber Optik, Lord Digital, and Dead Lord were never in LOD. Dead Lord wasn't even a hacker or a phreak.
All info I took is available on the internet. Lord Digital and Dead Lord are both listed as members by the group's founder Lex Luthor, in Computer Underground Digest. They're listed the same way in members of LOD published in CUD issues and Mindvox logs. Also where LODCOM was selling those history of underground BBS buffers.
Computer underground Digest Sun May 30 1993 Volume 5 : Issue 39 ISSN 1004-042X http://www.skepticfiles.org/hacker/cud539.htm
Computer underground Digest Sun Aug 22 1993 Volume 5 : Issue 64 ISSN 1004-042X http://www.skepticfiles.org/hacker/cud564.htm
Lord Digital is also intro'd as a LOD member in his Phrack Profile which has the intro by Erik Bloodaxe in a issue where Chris Goggans is the editor of Phrack.
I have no idea if Phiber Optik was ever a member or not, but at least two books seem to think so (Bruce Sterling's Hacker Crackdown and Joshua Quittner's Masters of deception) and out of all the things Chris Goggans has said about Abene, he's never said he was not a LOD member.
6Akira7 01:57, 5 May 2006 (UTC)
+++ There's always been a question of who was in LOD and who was not. A document was published a while back, it should be available in various archives. I do not recall "Sundry" as being in the group. Also, at some point in the 80s Terminal Man was kicked out for destructive behavior. I also recall Karl Marx as being in the group, but maybe he was just a friend of the group. Hard to say. I recall a LOT more real names than appear here, but I am not so sure that I should put them in Wikipedia. There has also been a few unauthorized 'revivals' of the group, which might add to confusion about membership. These groups were stamped out.
[edit] Comsec?
The question I have is, were Doc Holiday and Malefactor members of LOD? Phiber, Digital and Dead are missing in some of the official lists, but they appear in the 1990s and are validated by Lex and Bloodaxe, with Phiber I don't know but out of everything I've read about the great hacker war, there isn't anyone who has ever said Phiber wasn't a member. The peeps in Comsec don't appear anywhere in anything though.
[edit] Lex's former group and Sundry?
Compressed opening paragraphs, '30-35 members' is redundant, since the article lists all members by name. Adding knights of shadow reference, instead of 'group lex was a former member of'.
I can find nothing about "sundry" being in LOD anywhere online. I've left it alone for now, but it looks like another person editing themselves into LOD. Does "Michael Xavier - Solomon Grundy, Sundry" exist anywhere in relation to LOD the hacking group (not the comics ;-)? I can't find it using google or yahoo or any statement ever made by any of LOD's members.
Everything I know about LOD is from online documents, there were some LOD members that were missed and then edited into the article (control c), but Control C appears in at least some of the LOD listings. Was "Sundry" in LOD?
Lex Luthor signing off using KOS first, followed by LOD:
http://www.textfiles.com/hacking/hackcos.txt
6Akira7 18:14, 3 October 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Tabas motivations - just opinion
209.6.132.82 19:24, 6 December 2006 (UTC) The characterization of Mark Tabas does not belong in the article. That's a point of view, nothing more. I found Corey to be reckless, at times abusive, but I wouldn't feel that such observations are worthy of inclusion in an article which is supposed to be factual.
[edit] Logo?
209.6.132.82 19:23, 6 December 2006 (UTC) I don't ever recall a graphical logo for LOD. What is the provenance of the one listed? The only thing I recall is $LOD$. Of course, over twenty years memories do fade. I could be wrong.
