Talk:League Against Cruel Sports
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[edit] Pro Hunters defecting statement
"Amongst the League's supporters are many people who used to follow and take part in hunts. Indeed, the League has produced publications against fox hunting written by a Master of Fox Hounds and by a professional huntsman." - Have you got any evidence or a link/copy of the 'publications'? I have linked to the evidence on Graham Sirl etc. Please do the same!
[edit] League style of campaigning
From a NPOV i think that there is nothing wrong with filming the odd hunt especially if it is an illegal hunt which believe it or not many hunters are against.Maybe they should not balaclavas while doing this?I think it gives them a bad image but on the other side of the argument maybe it is vital.HECTOR 17:03, 10 March 2006 (UTC)
- League supporters do not wear balaclavas. Some saboteurs do, and some hunt stewards do, but League monuitors do not.MikeHobday 17:41, 10 March 2006 (UTC)
Ok i will take your word for it but surley ye hide yer identity when filming?I know that ye do not cause violence which is a good thing.I have read a few articles on it.HECTOR i think was just giving a neutral view which is fair.When can we finish the hare coursing article.I see ye tried to hide it from me.im not stupid.Ian davies friend 17:45, 10 March 2006 (UTC)
- The League monitors hunts in two ways. Volunteer monitors film openly. Undercover invetsigators mingle with the hunt supporters. MikeHobday 18:01, 10 March 2006 (UTC)
Sorry there i mistook your group for one of the saboteurs.Would i be interfering if i asked you what you thought of groups like the "sabs"?I do not think that it is right for them to regularly pose as hunters but if by doing it the once for information purposes then i would not condem that.Im not certain if hunters have ever posed as League members.If i am wrong then so be it.HECTOR 18:06, 10 March 2006 (UTC) Is the "League Against Cruel Sports" totally against all sports where blood is shed?Even fishing?If so then obviously you are a very commited group who must be vegitarians!HECTOR 18:14, 10 March 2006 (UTC)
- The League's policy statement, on its website, says "The League Against Cruel Sports policy is to campaign within the law for changes in the law." This is taken very seriously. If the League was prepared to break any law, what right would it have to expect hunters to obey the law? The policy statement also says, "The League has no policy on angling." MikeHobday 18:17, 10 March 2006 (UTC)
Thanks for that Mike.I appreciate your co-operation. If you have no policy on angling then why do you(animal welfare groups)complain so much about bloodsports if you are leaving out perhaps the biggest blood sport of them all?A lot,lot,lot more fish are killed than hares,foxes,badgers,......in a year so why is it you do not campaign against fishing?Hunting is a livelihood for a large number of people around the world.For instance asking some huntsman from a poor country where food is hard to come by to stop doing what he knows best is on the same level as asking someone to stop fishing?Its a fact of life that has been there since the begining of man.I do not agree with the killing of animals unless they are bred for that purpose.I dont think hare coursing is that cruel because they do not intend on harming or killing the hare.I take it that you are vegetarian who eats fish.HECTOR 18:29, 10 March 2006 (UTC)