User talk:LDRA

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[edit] The Gods don't like you

It seems that User:Mapetite526 does not like LDRA Testbed. I created a page + content about it yesterday and got a reaction that was very similar to what has just happened to you page. Derek farn 15:46, 26 October 2006 (UTC)

Same for TBaudit, et al. You may wish to read Wikipedia's notability and inclusion guidelines on software, as well the polict on advertising. Best regards, Angus McLellan (Talk) 16:34, 26 October 2006 (UTC)

I appreciate that a policy on advertising is needed, but it should be applied consistently. There are a lot of products that have articles describing them. For instance Spark language is an informative article about what is essentially the product of one company. If this and others like remain the Testbed article should be given a chance to evolve into something like a Wiki article. Derek farn 16:48, 26 October 2006 (UTC)

It is not always possible to catch every article that fits a certain criteria. The editors usually rely on the "recent changes" list to find articles that they feel do not belong. So please don't take offense that an editor marks one article for deletion but leaves another. They may not have seen the other article. Also, please note that while any editor can mark an article for deletion, an admin has to agree with that and actually do the deleting. So it is often not just one person that is responsible. As for this particular article, since it appeared to be created by a user with the same name as the article, I marked it as spam. I could not see the history from the first creation at that point. -- Mapetite526 14:27, 27 October 2006 (UTC)

The Spark article references books and an article from Spectrum. Articles with references like that do not get speedily deleted. Indeed, they rarely get deleted at all (especially if they are about software). There's a catch phrase here: notability is not subjective. When people write books or papers about something, especially if it is multiple books or papers, then we are sure that the subject is notable. I'd suggest that it is better to create one good, reasonable length article, with references, before thinking of spliting it up. Hope this helps, Angus McLellan (Talk) 16:59, 26 October 2006 (UTC)

Clearly there are references. Google scholar finds: Automated software testing; Proceedings of IEEE Soft-Fair; Software Testing, Verification, and Analysis; IEE Colloquium on Software Testing for Critical Systems; Experience-driven Process Improvement Boosts Software Quality; and so on. I suppose you already knew this, but this is the sort of thing that should be included in articles. Again, hope this helps, Angus McLellan (Talk) 17:10, 26 October 2006 (UTC)

I knew that papers about LDRA tools had been published in refereed journals, but did not have references to hand (or plan to spend any more time on the article). I simply felt that people had acted too hastily and that the article should be given time to evolve into something more substantial. Derek farn 18:04, 26 October 2006 (UTC)

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Mangojuice^talk 17:17, 26 October 2006 (UTC)