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[edit] Boeing 777

Thanks for nominating this pic of a Boeing 777 being towed across a public road at London Heathrow. It will be interesting to see what happens! I fear it has little chance, only because a few of my other aircraft pics have been nominated and have had no luck!
I was at Heathrow only last Saturday and I watched three aircraft towed across that road (they never have their engines running). Sadly a bypass road is being built around the area so sometime in 2006 that road will be shut for ever. Best Wishes - Adrian Pingstone 22:26, 15 November 2005 (UTC)

Hi! You asked on my Talk page if the road is used much, here's the answer -
Yes, that road is in use by the public 24 hours a day, 7 days a week, because it’s the airport’s public perimeter road. How some of British Airways maintenance hangars (including the Concorde maintenance hangars, when it was flying) got to be the wrong side of a public road I have no idea.
The aircraft crossing point is almost in line with the approach to runway 28R which is the northern of Heathrows 2 runways (the other is 28L). 28L or 28R are used when the wind is such that aircraft must approach LHR from the east ie they fly across London itself.
Locate the point where aircraft, if landing on 28R, fly across the LHR perimeter road where it runs round the the eastern side of the airport. The map should show a roundabout about 100 metres south of that point, at a popular photography spot that many call the White Huts (because there is a small white-painted industrial estate there, that you can park amongst).
About 100 metres south of that roundabout is the aircraft crossing point. It’s a great place at the crossing because there are views of aircraft queuing for take off on 28R if 28L is being used for landings. Hope this helps - Adrian Pingstone 15:46, 16 November 2005 (UTC)


[edit] Your support

Hi there, thanks for your support on my Lake Monowai picture. I took it myself while camping in the wilderness a couple of months ago and thought it was a great photo, so I added it to the thing. Have never done anything like this before and I am an extremely amateur photographer so I am really grateful that everyone hasn't starting criticising it and pointing out its faults straight away! :) Swollib 09:02, 16 November 2005 (UTC)

[edit] How to insert an external link on a page while editing?

An inline citation is case 2, which is the case I excluded from being questionable uses. --David Woolley 17:00, 17 November 2005 (UTC)

I'd actually encourage marking of individual source references, although I see a problem with direct links in that it is difficult to correlate them with entry in the References section, that should still be there. What I was really cautioning about is the use of links that aren't to sources. A case where I might see a clear valid exception is an article about a well known web portal, where the home page link might make sense in line. --David Woolley 19:35, 17 November 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Reverted your user page

The same anonymous editor who changed your user page yesterday did it again. He/she/it left a cute bunny behind in your intentionally left blank space, but I figured it probably did classify as vandalism. If not and I did wrong, mea culpa. –Abe Dashiell (t/c) 21:38, 8 December 2005 (UTC)

Thanks for catching it! I personally don't mind vandalism to my user page, but I love that there are people like you out there watching for it anyway :) -Lanoitarus 05:19, 9 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Copyright concerns

The following was posted to the top of my user page at 12:35 EST by 24.147.103.146, I have moved it to my talk page instead.-Lanoitarus 05:38, 10 December 2005 (UTC)

Copywrite violations, You may call my revisions vandalism, but the copywrite violations are a crime. I am working to report Wikipedia to the hosting company that the server is on. Wikipedia is complicit in a criminal act. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 24.147.103.146 (talk • contribs).

  • I believe i have addressed each of your concerns on each page you blanked. Several of your concerns were valid, several were not. Regardless, there are correct channels for your concerns, and simply blanking content without regard to protocall (which I left you a long message explaining) is not one of them. -Lanoitarus 05:38, 10 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Copyright person

In reply to your comment:

I am not an admin, so I can't help you there. I did however, also leave a message on his/her userpage stating that he/she should follow the procedure listed on Wikipedia:Copyright problems. And I do believe you did the right thing. - Akamad 05:53, 10 December 2005 (UTC)
Thanks for the vote of confidence :). I think I have not resolved the problem, anyway. Most of the articles were in fact violations, just not of the site he had listed. Should be all set now. Thanks! -Lanoitarus 05:55, 10 December 2005 (UTC)
I forgot to check the page history before adding Edward "Punchy" McLaughlin to the list of copyright violations, thanks for fixing that up. - Akamad 06:09, 10 December 2005 (UTC)
Sure thing, we had a bit of a edit timing conflict going for a while there :) Looks pretty good now though. Thanks again. -Lanoitarus 06:11, 10 December 2005 (UTC)

I blocked him for 48 hours. Thanks for bringing the continued problems to my attention. -- SCZenz 22:22, 11 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Good Job!

I just want to say that you've done a great job concerning the copy-vio mug shots and dealing with this person. I can't believe this person is actually connected with the Howie Carr website or show because he seems rather thick. I didn't think when I uploaded the mug shot of Jimmy Flynn that I was violating any copyright. But it was so long ago that I honestly don't know where the picture came from. I knew that mugshots were PD but I didn't even think about people claiming ownership of a scan of a PD picture! So I was educated by the corel court case! If I had done something wrong I would have bothered fighting this guy in the edits either. But since it was made clear that there was actually a court case about this type of thing, this guy should have backed off the pictures. I must say I am annoyed with people stealing verbatim from other sites and I'm glad that came to light so these articles can be fixed. Thanks again for all your hard work!!! Dwain 01:36, 12 December 2005 (UTC)

  • Thanks Dwain, I definitely went from grateful (for pointing out plagarism) to annoyed (for the blanking and such) with this guy too. I just hope this is the end of it- I fear we may hear more when the block expires. -Lanoitarus (talk) .:. 03:39, 12 December 2005 (UTC)
I agree with Pitchka's comments. You're doing a great job in dealing with the anon users. I've got nothing further to add to your comments on WP:ANI. But can you keep me informed if any major events unfold, I can't see that you've done anything wrong so I intend to support you if any further action(s) occur. Just out of curiosity, what's the "corel court case" thing that User:Pitchka mentioned? - Akamad 06:59, 12 December 2005 (UTC)
Thanks very much, always great to hear positive feedback =). The "corel case" is Bridgeman vs Corel, which was brought to my attention by Mwanner. Its is a US district court ruling which basicially established that even if someone puts a bunch of effort/time/money into creating a reproduction of a public domain image, the new reproduction is automatically in the public domain as well unless it involves some sort of artistic originality. This means that the site the mug shots may have been lifted from is irrelevant, since they are reproductions of PD images. Thanks again for the support! -Lanoitarus (talk) .:. 07:10, 12 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Paladins vs Lupins's Vandal Fighter

Originally posted at User Talk:Rogue 9:

Hey, I saw your paladin user box in the sandbox (the edit came up in Lupin's vandal filter, actually), and thought it was hysterical. Just wanted to say kudos. -Lanoitarus (talk) .:. 07:49, 12 December 2005 (UTC)

Heh. Thanks. I am not a geek! I'm a level 12 paladin!  ;) Out of curiosity, why would stuff in the sandbox trigger a vandalism filter? Isn't random stuff kind of the point? Rogue 9 07:51, 12 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Thanks for guiding

Hello, I am new to Wikipedia. I am learning and in the process I have done my misstakes. I rolled back many and I think ppl like u will surely rollback those misstakes which I dont remeber. Thanks again —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Kumar Idh (talk • contribs).

  • Not a problem at all, everyone has to be new at some point. Let me know if there is anything I can help with! -Lanoitarus (talk) .:. 08:25, 12 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] thanks for reverting my talk page

Lanoitarus, Thanks for reverting vandalism on my talk page! --Hurricane111 22:42, 13 December 2005 (UTC)

=) Lanoitarus (talk) .:. 03:18, 14 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] AfD vs. CSD

My bad. I deleted the page initially, then I looked at CSD and didn't see "Spam" as a valid reason for a CSD. So I restored the article, removed the CSD tag, and listed it in AfD. Then after your note, I looked to see if spam was one of the definitions of vandalism. And lo, it is. So the page is gone. Thanks for the sanity check. → Ξxtreme Unction {yakłblah} 03:58, 14 December 2005 (UTC)

  • Haha, you stare at these screens long enough and who knows what youll start seeing :) -Lanoitarus (talk) .:. 04:00, 14 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Mozilla Userbox

unfortunately even though they appear to be fairly open to uses there are several issues, A) this does not constitute a license that Wikipedia can use and B) There are conceivable times when we would not fall under their scope and their licensing states that they reserve certain rights to their images so it is not appropriate for use on Wikipedia (other of course than fair use on articles about Firefox or Mozilla). JtkieferT | C | @ ---- 02:06, 15 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Bernie McLaughlin article

I have tried to find sources other than Carr's sites for the Bernie McLaughlin article without much success, though someone clearly has. I added the Carr site to the /temp article as an ==Ext link==, for honesty sake (in fact, maybe it should be ==Sources==, instead). I have to say, though, that our article now strikes me as a not a copyvio-- it's more than half again as long as Carr's, and has some facts not found on his page. What's more, if you compare different versions contributed by 216.20.1.211/2/3/4/5 (who started this article in the first place) you'll see different facts on different reconstructions after copyvio notices. It's all pretty strange. Who do you suppose 216.20.1.21x is? -- Mwanner | Talk 18:57, 15 December 2005 (UTC)

  • I agree that it should be listed under sources. I think the fundamental problem is that a few sentences are still EXTREMELY close. I will try to rewrite it completely when i have time this evening, which should solve the problems. As for who 216.20.1.21x, perhaps it is Whitey himself, back from hiding to terrorize wikipedia =D -Lanoitarus (talk) .:. 20:02, 15 December 2005 (UTC)
    • I suddenly feel like I'm in the twilight zone here-- the page history for Bernard "Bernie" McLaughlin no longer shows any of the original versions or the copyvio tags, etc., etc. Did some history expunging happen? Shouldn't there be some sort of notification given on the Talk page if that happens? Note that the page is still listed on Wikipedia:Copyright problems/2005 December 9. Do you have any idea what's going on? -- Mwanner | Talk 14:18, 16 December 2005 (UTC)
      • Ah, nevermind, I finally saw the 23 deleted edits indicated on the history page. User:Michael Snow determined that it was a copyvio and deleted the history. I'll take it up with him. -- Mwanner | Talk 14:25, 16 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Howie Carr

Thanks for letting me know about the watermarks on the pictures on Carr's site. The guy must be a Carr flunky after all. It puts Howie Carr in a very bad light in my opinion, not so much about articles that are just copies of the crap off of his website, but the way this guy has been acting and working and the error of insisting that we don't have a right to post PD images. Dwain 21:21, 15 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Re: My RfB

Oh, dear. I appreciate you fixing the typo. It's a wiki, after all!

Kind regards, Alex Schenck (that's Linuxbeak to you) 03:39, 16 December 2005 (UTC)

Psst! It's okay! You can vote too! *nudge nudge* ;-) Alex Schenck (that's Linuxbeak to you) 03:39, 16 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Frank Salemme

  • Lanoitarus,
I apologize for bringing this to your attention however, I recently transferred an article from Wikipedia:Articles for creation and, while admittedly it seemed to contain some wording from the website provided I had been in the process of reformatting and rewriting said article when 24.147.103.146 placed a copy violation template citing "To change a few words does not make this original work. This is a violation of the US Copyright laws.". I've since left a message on his talk page and, while I don't believe including publicly known facts such as a birthdate, dates, leader of the Patriarca crime family, etc. included in the article is a copyright violation (particularly when the website of the subject is included as a source), I would be more then happy to rewrite the article. I would have started on a temporary page however, as most my previous work would be included, would this still be seen as a copyright violation ? Again my apologies for bothering you but I wasn't sure where to bring this as it isn't vandalism or a similar offence. MadMax 19:29, 16 December 2005 (UTC)
I rewrote the article to remove any copyvios there were, it shoudl be clean now. new article is at the temp page Frank_Salemme/Temp -Lanoitarus (talk) .:. 06:57, 17 December 2005 (UTC)
Nice job, thanks for helping out with this mess. --Michael Snow 17:39, 17 December 2005 (UTC)
The normal procedure is to replace the page with a warning, list it at Wikipedia:Copyright problems, and rewrite it on a temp page (exactly as you did) or start over later after any infringing versions have been removed. --Michael Snow 18:11, 17 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Bugs Moran

Re: Image:Bugsmoran.gif, just a comment-- we never had this image id'd as a mug shot. Rather, User:Kwertii marked it PD, without stating a source, when he uploaded it. Granted, that makes it nosource, and some of Kwertii's other images have been deleted as copyvios. I only mention it because its frustrating that we find ourselves in such a defensive posture. I would love to be able to turn it around and say "OK, prove that you hold copyright on the image", but after banging my head against copyright law for some time now, I admit that I am baffled about how it is supposed to work. I just get the feeling that we may be being bullied by someone who has no better claim to the image than we have. Note that it also appears at [1] which pretty clearly is not a Howie Carr site.

I'm not saying you shouldn't have marked it as a copyvio-- I think it's the right thing to do under the circumstances. I'm just not convinced that it really is one. Wouldn't you think that if he did have a valid claim, he'd trot it out-- say, 'look, I acquired this image from such-and-such stock agency' and be done with it? Or simply file a take-down notice under the new ISP laws? -- Mwanner | Talk 13:57, 17 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] How do I redirect a page?

I really dont know where to ask and whome to ask this question so I am bugging you. I want a page kumar chetan to redirect to my user page. Actaully I was trying to create a page with kumar chetan and I use kumar_ldh as my user name in all sites. I am still confused how to do it. Kindly leave a message on my talk page. Thanks a lot in advance —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Kumar Idh (talk • contribs).

  • Hey, sorry it took me a while to get back to you, I was on vacation. To create a redirect you can check out Wikipedia:Redirect, but basically you just type #REDIRECT [[NAME OF PAGE 2]]. However, you really arent supposed to be making articles about yourself anyway unless you are someone famous, in accordance with WP:NN-- What exactly is it you want to do? Let me know and im happy to help. -Lanoitarus (talk) .:. 23:33, 28 December 2005 (UTC)


[edit] I am not vandalizing

Please don't block me or send any messages to me. I did not vandalize anything. I barely ever even use Wikipedia. Just for research. I did not do anything. I don't understand how my IP is said to be vandalizing. Please help, I didn't do anything! —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 207.200.116.65 (talk • contribs).

  • Looks like you are an AOL user, so you have a dynamic IP which makes it very likely that someone else was vandalising, not you (dynamic IPs are used by multiple AOL users) The best way to avoid this is to create an account of your own. Its free quick and simple. Thanks and sorry i took so long to get back to you, i was on vacation -Lanoitarus (talk) .:. 23:33, 28 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Bruegger's Bagels

Hey, looks like you are crossing the limits of the 3RR over on Bruegger's Bagels. Im gonna help you keep a eye on it, because much of what is being added does seem to be corporate, but please do follow the 3RR in the meantime. Some of what is being added is good info, too.

Thanks. I realized I was at my third revert, so that's why I didn't revert again. I think 68.9.138.84 went a bit over the line with a few comments in reverting his text; e.g. "Fuck off, deuce bag. I am telling you, I made this from scratch." and "Damn you, you son of a bitch, leave this page alone." don't necessarily tell me that he's trying to work as a team here,... I almost think he should be banned just for using edit comments like that, though it's hard to deal with anonymous users. Dr. Cash 23:38, 3 January 2006 (UTC)

Up yours, deuce bag. - —the preceding unsigned comment is by Peteg9130 (talk • contribs)

  • Its "douche", actually. Oh, and please stop violating the 3RR, if you don't mind. If you have changes to suggest that are good they will be incorporated, but this edit warring is not productive. Use the talk page or talk to the other parties directly. -Lanoitarus (talk) .:. 23:59, 3 January 2006 (UTC)

You people really are off your rockers. In fact, I am finished with wikipedia all together. Oh yeah, I almost forgot. BURN —the preceding unsigned comment is by Peteg9130 (talk • contribs)

Hey, I actually deliberately removed the Corporate History section during middle of the revert war, but the removal was quite purposeful: it was lifted verbatim from http://www.brueggers.com/founder.html and is therefore a copyright violation, so I went ahead and removed it per WP:C. Looks like in the craziness with vandalism people thought it was removed accidentally.

Oops, didn't realize that. Copyright violations would be a bad thing. Dr. Cash 00:11, 4 January 2006 (UTC)

Sigh. This guy really needs to get a clue. We'll just have to keep checking and reverting, I guess,... Dr. Cash 22:17, 14 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] User talk:216.20.1.215

Hi Lanoitarus - noticed you have put a note at this IP number talk page saying that vandalism dome by this number will be reported to the number owner. Someone at this number has been vandalising Fig; could you report this as stated, please? - Thanks, MPF 13:59, 4 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] User_talk:Jimbo Wales

I was not about to delete the anon's comments, I only reverted the previous blanking. Maybe he did it by mistake. Cheers. Cyberevil 05:18, 5 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Hello

Hello Lanoitarus,

You seem like a good guy, I'd like to chat with you off line. Could you send me an email at capncarr(at)comcast.net? Thanks

[edit] Copyright Violation Crusades

Hello Lanoitarus,

The violation is http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crusade

The trigger for the First Crusade was Emperor Alexius I’s

and

http://www.prophetofdoom.net/fh_aug_chapter21.html By Craig Winn http://www.YadaYahweh.com - All Rights Reserved - 2005

The trigger for the First Crusade was Emperor Alexius I’s

My IP has been blocked by http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Adam_Bishop. I've sent a note on the previous ticket of violations which is being worked by Michael Snow of this.

Some system. They steal content and when you push the issue they block your IP address.

As you may know, I have issued complaints with the hosting company and the FBI on other issues. These (crusades) are not content I control but will notify the original authors and provide the information they will need to issue a criminal complaint if in fact (provided they are the content owners) If the admins want to block me I will bypass Wikipedia and work directly with the owners and law enforcement. Not that I can't use alternate IPs.

PS How about unblocking my other IP address? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 165.139.138.1 (talk • contribs).


  • Ok, I went and found the copied sentence you mentioned, but it has been removed from the article since then anyway. Was it just that one sentence? As for your blocking, I do think it was a bit out of turn, especially since noone seems to have bothered to notify you or warn you on your talk page. However, I am not an admin so I have no power to unblock you, but I'll see what I can do. In the future, especially with obscure copyvios like this, I think it would help your cause allot if you provided the specific violation detail up front. You can add this to the article talk page or directly below the copyvio tag. Frankly, given how hard the one copied sentence was for me to find in the article, if I didnt know you had a history of finding valid copyvios, I would have thought it was senseless vandalism too. -Lanoitarus (talk) .:. 19:37, 7 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Crusade copyright

I'm not sure that was actually a copyright violation; who knows, maybe that guy took the sentence from here in the first place (it has been here for over a year). I interpreted the anon's actions as simple trolling, so I'm not particularly interested in listening to further complaints from him - if an anonymous editor knows enough about Wikipedia to use the copyvio tag without ever making any other edits, they are obviously not some random person who happened to stumble across the site with good intentions. (And it was simple enough to reword the sentence, which I have done.) Adam Bishop 19:56, 7 January 2006 (UTC)

Well, alright. I've unblocked him. Adam Bishop 21:41, 7 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Copyright removal

Please see update to copyright removal post thanks —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 69.9.174.130 (talk • contribs).

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