User talk:Lanoitarus

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Contents 1 Question 2 Important 3 Thanks 4 Need your help 5 Elevator Levitation 6 2nd Avenue Subway 7 Reverting clone? 8 Huh? 9 Barnstar, OTR & PUA Review 10 203.32.119.33 11 Regarding Vandalism reverts 12 Vandalism on Muhammad page 13 RFM 14 Led Zeppelin page 15 Mistake 16 VandalProof 1.1 is Now Available For Download 17 Deny recognition poll 18 VandalProof 1.2 Now Available 19 fraud 20 Image:California State Route 1 Looking North 21 Copyright dispute 22 Stop 23 SigEp 24 Second Avenue Subway test edit 25 James "Buddy" McLean 26 Fraternity template-Mission Statement 27 Greek template

[edit] Question

Why did you re add the advertisement tag? It was removed by the community. I have reformated this article to correspond with the guide lines and terms. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Remagine (talk • contribs).

• No, it was removed by you, less than 2 minutes after it was added by an administrator. -Lanoitarus _^(talk) .:. 02:44, 8 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Important

I have fixed the article countless times (REMAGINE). Made it so it doesnt read like an add and more of and informational page but yet the advertisment tag keeps being added. Had other members of the community remove the link, but yet it remains. What gives? View the discusssion page on REMAGINE for details. Remagine 01:30, 8 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Thanks

Appreciate your help. I think in the future I'll just notify the copyright holders of how to register a complaint with the FBI & hosting company. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 24.147.103.146 (talk • contribs).

• They probably have much faster results contacting jimbo or through our mechanism Wikipedia:Request for immediate removal of copyright violation, but you can certainly advise people however you like. Feel free to contact me directly in to future, too, Im always happy to look into copyright issues. Just a personal tip: I think youre likely to do much better if you register a username. IP addresses make to many people think vandalism without really checking carefully. -Lanoitarus _^(talk) .:. 06:46, 8 January 2006 (UTC)

I tried that route, it didn't work. Only when I started to file criminal complaints was the problem addressed. As to "Jimbo", I never once rec'd a note back from him. I sent out my first notice to an author yesterday, complete with how to file a criminal complaint. I'm now thinking about building a website devoted to what's going on here. The reality is that editors and admins are so hot on climbing the ladder that they steal content to add to thier list of articles. Once it's up there it's very difficut to get it removed, just about impossible if you try to deal with the editors and admins. Another other problem is with groups who "own" pages. I've dealt with a group in the past that refused to take the advise of consensus and push thier pov. There is no way to deal with these guys. Then, I find that content I or a pal wrote has been stolen wholesale. Instead of fighting them I'll spend my time informing others of how to file criminal complaints. I tried to "play the game". Guys like Jmabel, Jpgordon, Robert McClenon, Gamaliel, Hall Monitor, and Kelly Martin have ruined the project. It's thier way or no way. Well, no way is fine with me. Guys like them damage the project more than any vandal. You can fix vandalism, you can't fix a group of "editors" who protect each other.

[edit] Need your help

Hello, you were helping me the other day on the copyright issue for the name REMAGINE. I have left you a new post on that copyright violation wiki article. I need your advice and help to resolve this matter. Take care. Remagine 16:29, 9 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Elevator Levitation

Hello, and welcome to Wikipedia! We welcome and appreciate your contributions, such as Elevator levitation, but we cannot accept copyrighted text or images borrowed from either web sites or printed material. For more information about Wikipedia's policies and guidelines, take a look at our Five Pillars. Happy editing! —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 67.177.137.7 (talk • contribs).

• Although i appreciate your grasp of our warning templates, the article I re-added was not a copyvio, and your deletion of it was vandalism. Please don't mis-use our warning templates. I consider your comment above as vandalism to my talk page, but since I firmly believe in paper trails I will not delete it. -Lanoitarus _^(talk) .:. 18:00, 14 January 2006 (UTC)

The content posted on Wikipedia is based off a trade secret - one specifically designed by Peter Loughran. The work within the manuals which talk about the secret are copyrighted work. Maybe people here at Wikipedia have the two reversed - copyrights and trade secrets? Maybe a quick review of Trade Secrets as defined by Wikipedia should be review -> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intellectual_rights_to_magic_methods#Trade_secret and also trade secret information -> http://www.howstuffworks.com/question625.htm

There is obviously a big differance between information that can be easily found by the public as for one that cant...which in this case purchasing the product gives you the rights to use the trade secret to use in your act and not to divulge this to your audience. In this case it is easy to see that it is being used harmfully towards to the originator.

You can argue that this is just a method...but what you buy is what you have on Wikipedia...thus harming the originator of his profits...the method is barely even mentioned...which would be patter and how to rigg yourself...etc....instead what is here is mainly the trade trade secret he worked hard at and what you purchase. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 67.177.137.7 (talk • contribs).

Unfortunately, whether the information here is the same as is for sale elsewhere is irrelevant. Wordings are copyrightable, methods are patentable. We have not taken your wording (therefore no copyvio), and the method is not patented, so there is no patent concern. While I am very sorry that you feel we are taking money from the trick's inventor, we are violating no laws-- Perhaps you should write to your congressman. Besides, anyone who actually wants to perform the trick would still have to buy the rig from the commercial site, so I find it hard to believe we are harming much. As an aside, I personally feel magic tricks have no place here on wikipedia- But the point is, your grounds for deletion are totally false, and you are not followign our procedures. Feel free to list the article for a vote for deletion at Articles for Deletion- I personally would vote to delete, and im sure others would. But your current approach is in violation of our procedures and will be enforced as such. Please stop vandalising our site. -Lanoitarus _^(talk) .:. 18:12, 14 January 2006 (UTC)

Im sorry that you feel that way. As far as vandalizing...I have not done such thing. There is a differance of someone vandalizing a site and someone that is protecting ones interest. In concern to this issue I am only attempting to make one aware of content that should not be part of the site. Now I can and will make one last attempt. Keep elevator 1 and just delete elevator 2 information. That will make both I and the inventor happy as well as many others that i represent.

As for deletion I have to say this site is very complex and complicated on how things are setup...doesnt make things easy for deleting. I will ago ahead and attempt to submit the articles for deletion.

This illusions/trick is also simlar to the Cris Angel Self Levitation also found to have copy righted issues. Has nothing from the manual but does expose information. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 67.177.137.7 (talk • contribs).

• I think you are mixing up the law with my "feelings". I'm just telling you what the law says, and why what you are saying is not correct. Thats fact. Blanking is Vandalism. You are also now in violation of the Three Revert Rule which states that you cannot make essentially the same edit more than three times in 24 hours. If you want to discuss this, please do so at the articles talk page or at articles for deletion. -Lanoitarus _^(talk) .:. 18:24, 14 January 2006 (UTC)

I am sorry it seems that way. But it is far from what my attempts are. As for placing in the articles for deletion I have posted it -> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Log/2006_January_14

Hello Lanoitarus. Thanks for your efforts at Elevator levitation and for your comments at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Elevator levitation. I am pretty sure I agree with you. I'm very interested to see how the AfD goes. Best, Johntex\^talk 02:59, 15 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] 2nd Avenue Subway

Thanks for the compliments regarding the 2nd Avenue Subway page. I think the original Second Ave page covers it pretty well too. Perhaps the parts to keep from 2nd Ave version are the A New 21st Century Attempt and See Also, because they have relevant information that isn't covered in the orginal artical and the links are useful. Regaring the image of the 2nd Avenue Subway from the MTA website. The one arguement I would make in favor of using it is the fact that it comes from a publicly released PDF document about the project scope. It seems to me that such a publicly required document should be rather easy to reuse in a non-commercial format like Wikipedia. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Rock nj (talk • contribs).

• As I said on the images talk page, the problem isnt the legality as much as it is wikipedia policy. We can only use images that are Public Domain, Fair Use, or Licensed under GFDL or similar licenses. This is none, so although it might be legal (a debatable fact anyway), its still against our policy. If i have time i might recreate a image to replace it with. -Lanoitarus _^(talk) .:. 00:04, 16 January 2006 (UTC)

• • I guess if it's against Wikipedia policy to use the 2nd Ave subway map image from the public planning document, then we can't use it. I just thought that in this case, since it is a proposed public works project, that using an image that depicts the route (useful information for the reader) would be worth making an exception.

[edit] Reverting clone?

Sorry, I don't get it? You reverted a insignificant clone of the Balducci levitation back to its own page, making research more difficult. See talk page on the clone's page - check my edits on Balducci, then (unless you find valid historical reasons to keep the clone separate) merge it to Balducci again. --TStone 04:41, 26 January 2006 (UTC)

Yet another "sorry" - this time for the lack of diplomacy shown by me above. Your last comment on my page was very kind and curteous (is that how it's spelled?), and had me in a good mood for several minutes :-) I should have understood your position better. Anyway, thank you for the kind message --TStone 20:06, 30 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Huh?

Lanoitarus, what is that header crap on your user page?

68.9.138.84 01:06, 10 February 2006 (UTC)

Oh, it is pretty funny. :-)

[edit] Barnstar, OTR & PUA Review

FYI. You may want to look and comment here: Wikipedia:Barnstar and award proposals/Proposed Changes. For your reference, the guidelines are referenced here: Barnstar Proposal Guidelines. Thanks -- evrik 18:26, 24 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] 203.32.119.33

Hello and you are welcome. 31 hours is an auto option along with others. A block can be any amount of time. 31 hours is an odd amount of time which gets the vandal off schedule since most of them will be right back 24 hours later to go at it again. Thanks for the good work.--Dakota ~ ° 04:28, 7 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Regarding Vandalism reverts

As a student how do you have the privilege of taking care of vandalism that is put on pages? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 12.207.159.229 (talk • contribs).

Alright got it, didn't know about all this stuff. Now I want my IP address off the site is it possible to do somehow? Creating an account? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 12.207.159.229 (talk • contribs).

[edit] Vandalism on Muhammad page

Perhaps that was the wrong way to deal with it, but User:RedCrescent has, along with many others from both sides (see the history, I am vigilant about each, most of my edits are eliminating spam links such as Answering Islam or Answering Christianity), been essentially vandalizing this page by coming back from time to time and eliminating language that has been hammered out, if occasionally with contention, on the talk page.Timothy Usher 08:12, 7 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] RFM

A request for mediation has been filed with the Mediation Committee that lists you as a party. The Mediation Committee requires that all parties listed in a mediation must be notified of the mediation. Please review the request at Wikipedia:Requests for mediation/Medical analysis of circumcision, and indicate whether you agree or refuse to mediate. If you are unfamiliar with mediation, please refer to Wikipedia:Mediation. There are only seven days for everyone to agree, so please check as soon as possible.

Alienus 02:23, 9 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Led Zeppelin page

you sent me this message:

Please stop. If you cntinue to vandalize pages, as you did to Led Zeppelin, you will be blocked from editing Wikipedia. Lanoitarus (talk) .:. 22:50, 10 April 2006 (UTC)

All I did was remove the line "fuk this site" from the bottom of the article. Please tell me where the vandalization took place as I am greatly confused. Thanks

[edit] Mistake

I did not vandalize the World War I article; instead, I cleaned it up. Searching for World War I, I came across the main article, which had "HI MOM EAT POOP" written in it. I deleted that because I found it silly and offensive. How is this vandalism? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 68.239.129.250 (talk • contribs).

• Yep, i already saw that and deleted the warning from your user page, terribly sorry for the mixup, i meant to warn the person who added it, but you popped into the edit history a moment before and i mis-clicked. Welcome! -Lanoitarus _^(talk) .:. 19:09, 11 April 2006 (UTC)
• Thanks for deleting the warning and for the welcome. :)

[edit] VandalProof 1.1 is Now Available For Download

Happy Easter to all of you, and I hope that this version may fix your current problems and perhaps provide you with a few useful new tools. You can download version 1.1 at User:AmiDaniel/VandalProof. Let me warn you, however, to please be extremely careful when using the new Rollback All Contributions feature, as, aside from the excessive server lag it would cause if everyone began using it at once, it could seriously aggitate several editors to have their contributions reverted. If you would like to experiment with it, though, I'd be more than happy to use my many sockpuppets to create some "vandalism" for you to revert. If you have any problems downloading, installing, or otherwise, please tell me about them at User:AmiDaniel/VP/Bugs and I will do my best to help you. Thanks. AmiDaniel (Talk) 06:47, 16 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Deny recognition poll

(Note that this is a form notification.)

Hello Lanoitarus. Since you commented on the Deny recognition proposal, this is to notify you that a formal poll has been opened concerning it. If it is accepted, it will be be used as a launching pad to amend other policies such as the deletion policy; that page itself will be marked as historical, not policy. Feel free to reread the proposal and place your vote. // [admin] Pathoschild (^talk/_map) 07:21, 11 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] VandalProof 1.2 Now Available

[edit] fraud

Wikipedia is a fraud. The fact that some 'higher up' at an organization can revert a statement or edit by a free speaking individual is disgusting and a slap in the face. Freedom of speech should be upheld at any cost; WIKI is the downfall of this god given right. The creators of Wiki need to realize that this creation is now in the hands of the public at large; they are not god and therefore it is not their place to determine editing reactions due to any criteria. Please allow users to edit and complete articles at will and only interfere when slanderous or blatently untrue information is presented. STOP CENSORING OUR FREEDOM TO INFORMATION AND SPEECH. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 69.141.202.169 (talk • contribs).

[edit] Image:California State Route 1 Looking North

I am working on recaptioning images to provide context for the images. I was wondering if you could identify where on SR-1 you were when you took this image: Image:California State Route 1 Looking North.jpg.

Thanks!

Epolk 23:31, 27 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Copyright dispute

• Lanoitarus,

I'm not sure if you remember me, although I had previously contacted you in a conflict with User:24.147.103.146 regarding Frank Salemme. In recent weeks an anonymous user has repeatedly inserted messages claiming a copyright violation of a photo I uploaded in September 2006 from the book "Paddy Whacked: The Untold Story of the Irish-American Gangster" by T.J. English. The image in question, a photo of Boston mobster James "Buddy" McLean, is cited in the book as property of the Boston Police Department. Under this reasoning, I feel the photo falls into public domain and is used under Wikipedia's fair use policies, as "a historically significant photo of a famous individual" and "used only for informational purposes".

The anonymous user (User:24.34.42.90), who claims the photo is property of the website http://whiteyworld.com, has repeatedly inserted his opinions on the image summery. I have tried to discuss the matter with him on the talk page, however, he has continued to rewriting the image summery. I would certainly concede the two photos are similar in some respects, and he is certainly entitled to point out copyright violations and infringement when he may see it; however he had apparently begun making unwarranted accusations and has at this point stopped responding. I've recently talked to User:Sam Spade regarding this issue and I'd rather not get involved anymore then I have already. I can produce the actual page from the book if necessary; however I am concerned that any other images I have uploaded (as well as those I may in the future) would come under similar attack. MadMax 19:25, 28 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Stop

Stop changing Cory Lidle. He is DEAD! NeoExelor 21:20, 11 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] SigEp

Are you a SigEp? -—The preceding unsigned comment was added by Chrislk02 (talk • contribs) 13:20, November 13, 2006.

I am sorry I forgot to sign my page. I will do it right this time. Chris Kreider 22:24, 13 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Second Avenue Subway test edit

I hope that my very short-lived test edit of the SAS article did not violate any guidelines. I added a deliberately (and obviously) incorrect statement, that the full SAS would open in 2007, merely to illustrate a point on the Subchat discussion board, and deleted the edit in less than five minutes

PROSA

[edit] James "Buddy" McLean

Lanoitaurus,

I'm unsure if you are already aware, however an anonymous user 24.34.49.160 has repeatedly removed the photo of McLean as well as an "unsourced" quote which I have provided a source for. I believe this has gone past the "Three-Revert Rule" however, as prior discussions havn't done much good, I'm not sure it its even worth bringing up on the talk page. MadMax 07:50, 19 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Fraternity template-Mission Statement

I'm going to add that as an option to the infobox, I'll post on your talk page when I get it working. Stealthound 16:37, 21 November 2006 (UTC)

Done Stealthound 17:17, 21 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Greek template

As a member of the Fraternity and Sorority project, please check out the proposed project template and leave your feedback. Scoutersig 17:10, 13 December 2006 (UTC)