Talk:Languages of the Philippines/Archive1
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- THIS IS THE ORIGINAL , THE OTHER WEBSITES COPIED FROM THIS.--Jondel 08:18, 16 Sep 2004 (UTC)
- I think so, too. http://www.embracezine.com/08132004confession.htm is the August edition of some magazine. From the URL, I'd guess it appeared on Aug 13, 2004. Check our revision of the article from Jul 10, 2004: it already has the same text as on the external web site. I think the author copied from us, and forgot to give us due credit. I also believe that http://www.translation-services-usa.com/languages/tagalog.shtml copied from us: part of their text is a copy of our Nov 22, 2003 version of Demographics of the Philippines, which includes text from the 1911 Encyclopedia Britannica. The external site includes that text verbatim, but doesn't give the 1911 Encyclopedia Britannica reference. In fact, they did copy this version, as is evident from the spelling errors fixed in the edit before and the edit after and comparing that to the spelling errors present on the external site. Hence they copied it between Jun 25 and Jun 28, 2004. QED :-) Lupo 12:46, 16 Sep 2004 (UTC)
Changes and acknowledgements were made at the copyright violating embrace website. Please remove the copyright violation.--Jondel 01:28, 17 Sep 2004 (UTC)
EMAILREPLIESACKNOWLEDGEMENTS
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For http://www.embracezine.com/08132004confession.htm
Original Message -----
From: "Renato Gandia" <rgandia@shaw.ca> To: "John Martinez" <martinez@dempa.co.jp> Sent: Friday, September 17, 2004 1:02 AM Subject: Re: Pls acknowledge Wikipedia
> Hello John, > > I am so sorry about that. I will rectify this today. I will make the changes and acknowledge you and wikipedia. > > Please give me a day. > > Thanks, > Ren
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Original Message -----
From: "Renato Gandia" <rgandia@shaw.ca> To: "John Martinez" <martinez@dempa.co.jp> Sent: Friday, September 17, 2004 9:22 AM Subject: Re: Pls acknowledge Wikipedia
> john, > can you please give me an email address for wikipedia editor so i can send them an apology > > the pages have been fixed if you want to check them. > > all the best, > ren
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The eleventh paragraph now contains the acknowledgement.--Jondel 06:36, 17 Sep 2004 (UTC)
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Acknowledgements to wiki on translation-services-usa.com
At the bottom of http://www.translation-services-usa.com/languages/tagalog.shtml
Sources: WorldLanguage.com | NationMaster.com
The WorldLanguage doesn't seem to have to original or copy.
At NationMaster.com, enterring Language in the Philippines then going to the bottom reveals this
The Wikipedia article included on this page is licensed under the GFDL. All other elements are (c) copyright NationMaster.com 2003. All Rights Reserved. Usage implies agreement with terms.
- Agreed, looks like this article is valid. Thanks for the work Jondel. -- Netoholic @ 07:00, 2004 Sep 17 (UTC)
from Wikipedia:Copyright problems
- Languages of the Philippines - Parts (contributed by Jondel) of the first edit from last few paragraphs of [1] and more recent edits taken ones from [2] . -- Netoholic @ 07:02, 2004 Sep 16 (UTC)
- The wikipedia version is the original. The other sites copied from wikipedia.--Jondel 08:13, 16 Sep 2004 (UTC)
- See Talk:Languages of the Philippines. There is evidence that both external sites copied from us. Lupo 12:48, 16 Sep 2004 (UTC)
- This isn't a copyvio. --seav 15:21, 16 Sep 2004 (UTC)
- Changes and acknowledgements were made at the copyright violating embrace website. Please remove the copyright violation.--Jondel 01:28, 17 Sep 2004 (UTC)
- I now have an e-mail from the embrace webmaster. If you look at the same webpage above there is acknowledgements to wikipedia.--Jondel 05:11, 17 Sep 2004 (UTC)
- AT the other website of link 350 above, www.translation-services-usa.com/languages/tagalog.shtml
This can be found at the bottom:
- Sources: WorldLanguage.com | NationMaster.com
- At NationMaster.com, enterring Language in the Philippines then going to the bottom reveals this
- The Wikipedia article included on this page is licensed under the GFDL.
All other elements are (c) copyright NationMaster.com 2003. All Rights Reserved. Usage implies agreement with terms.
- Sources: WorldLanguage.com | NationMaster.com
- The WorldLanguage doesn't seem to have to original.
This the e-mail reply from one of the copyright violating website (the wiki is the original): Ren, Thanks for your reply. Regards
John
It's just that now, the administrators are saying I'm the one
Original Message -----
From: "Renato Gandia" <rgandia@shaw.ca> To: "John Martinez" <martinez@dempa.co.jp> Sent: Friday, September 17, 2004 1:02 AM Subject: Re: Pls acknowledge Wikipedia
> Hello John, > > I am so sorry about that. I will rectify this today. I will make the changes and acknowledge you and wikipedia. > > Please give me a day. > > Thanks, > Ren
I DON'T HAVE TIME TO DEFEND MY WORKS. DON'T TELL ME NOT TO POST E-MAILS HERE!!!--Jondel 23:25, 16 Sep 2004 (UTC)
