Talk:Language recognition chart
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How exactly does "DFGLNQRUVWYZ ... and no other" = English? Brooklyn Nellie (Nricardo) 02:31, Mar 17, 2004 (UTC)
- The author meant that English uses the Latin alphabet, with no further letters or diacriticals. I'll change that to be the entire Latin (uppercase) alphabet.Lisa Paul 07:16, 27 Jun 2004 (UTC)
- It was my intention to inlude only characteristic letters (I excluded letters of Latin alphabet which look same as letters of Cyrillic or Greek alphabet). Nikola 04:30, 12 Jul 2004 (UTC)
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[edit] A resource
This page[1] attempts something similar to the wikipedia chart and may have info not already on wikipedia, if someone wants to compare. also this discussion[2] in a livejournal community lists corrections and additions to the aforementioned web page
[edit] Devanagari and other Indic scripts?
I don't know a darned thing about Asian alphabets, but maybe somebody could put in a sample of Hindi, Nepali, etc. Also nice would be a sample of Thai. - Lisa Paul 07:52, 27 Jun 2004 (UTC)
[edit] Klingon? Are you serious?
Come on people. Does Wikipedia have to start to look like a dumping ground for losers? (yeah, I know I'm one, but still, I try to hide it from time to time) Nelson Ricardo 01:30, Aug 23, 2004 (UTC)
Klingon is being taken more seriously today than you may realise. It wouldn't surprise me if, in a few years, it became more widely spoken than Esperanto. AdmN 01:52, 23 Aug 2004 (UTC)
The purpose of this page was originally to enable users to see in which language a new article is written in. As someone might write an article in Klingon... Nikola 08:16, 23 Aug 2004 (UTC)
Well, at the top it says "document" rather than "Wikipedia article"... and there are certainly documents written in Klingon. I wouldn't expect anyone to write a en.wikipedia article in Klingon, but then I wouldn't expect anyone to write an en.wikipedia article in French either. Perhaps this should be moved out of the Wikipedia namespace and mingled with the general articles. It's certainly fascinating, and it may be generally useful. And no, I did not add Klingon as a joke. -- SS 16:08, 23 Aug 2004 (UTC)
[edit] Namespace
I moved this page to the main namespace. I understand the initial motivation, but I don't see why hide this useful information from the general public. -- Taku 05:17, Dec 5, 2004 (UTC)
- This looks to me like original research that is not appropriate for the Main namespace. Russ Blau (talk) July 6, 2005 17:03 (UTC)
[edit] Armenian/Georgian Alphabets
All I see is a bunch of question marks for the Armenian/Georgian alphabets. MonsterOfTheLake 17:15, 28 Dec 2004 (UTC)
- Your computer doesn't have support for these fonts. Mikkalai 20:24, 28 Dec 2004 (UTC)
[edit] Languages using Arabic or Arabic-derived script
How does one tell apart Arabic, Farsi, and Urdu?
- My totally non-expert observations indicate that Persian (Farsi) writing is more 'broken up' than Arabic if that makes any sense. — Trilobite (Talk) 06:34, 8 Mar 2005 (UTC)
[edit] Greek
I think the article spends too much time describing different ways of writing Greek, and not enough on the grammar and vocubulary. If the purpose here is to quickly figure out which language something is written in, so a translator can be contacted, there is no need to get into the details of monotonic vs. polytonic. Like Hebrew, Greek is instantly recognizable; no other alphabet is sufficiently close for confusion. (Most Greek that shows up here is in the Greek alphabet, not in "greeklish".)
However it would be worth regognising the differences between Ancient and Modern Greek. While an educated native speaker of Greek can usually understand the ancient language; an ancient text would be better translated by a classicist. On the other hand a modern text would be better translated by a native speaker who is more aware of current cultural references.
Segv11 (talk/contribs) 22:53, 14 January 2006 (UTC)
The easiest way to tell a text in arabic script isn't arabic is the extra letters that are found in the persian languages. There is no P in arabic, also the Jhe, but it is a rare character in Persian farsi. It's hard to use the words as a reference, excluding the obvious like the al article in arabic, and the pronouns in each language.
The four letters:
پ pe ژ jhe چ che گ gaf
are missing from arabic and found in farsi. Pe, Che, and Gaf are very common.
Arabic uses the "al" article (The) very VERY often and is the easiest way to confirm something is an arabic text.
it can appear in different forms though
ال الا
This is the easiest method of recognizing words that are arabic beginning with those letters (On the right side of a word).
examples
Also Personal pronouns in arabic:
انا انت هو هی نحت انتم انتن هم هن
And common pronouns in farsi:
من تو شما انها
common verb endings in farsi:
کرد شد است ام
This should be enough to give you an insight into recognizing farsi and arabic texts, the challenging one to identify is urdu, someone should figure out a method of recognizing that, because it's so different from all other languages written with the arabic script. About half of the word pool from any language written with the arabic script is arabic EXCEPT urdu, which is probably 70% hindi.
[edit] Afrikaans
I'd say that this article is wrong about Afrikaans using no other letters. For example the Afrikaans word for 'morning' is môre, the word for 'bird' is voël, 'world' is wêreld and 'bridges' are brûe.
[edit] encyclopedic?
While the page is certainly useful, it's highly unencyclopedic, I don't know if WikiPedia is a good place for it. If so, it should at least start with a paragraph a discussion... also note that recongnising languages by squiggles is not always useful online, as many people write still in squiggleless ASCII due to their local technical limitations or wish to communicate with others who might be encodingly-challanged.
This page was never intended to be encyclopedic, but was intended almost as a help page to accompany Wikipedia:Pages needing translation into English to assist people to identify what language an article was written in. It was originally created in the Wikipedia namespace and moved to the main encyclopedia as per the discussion above, and therefore I'm going to remove the unencyclopedic template. --Sepa 17:46, 18 April 2006 (UTC)
