Talk:LaDainian Tomlinson
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Under "Records" someone wrote: "On November 26, 2006, in a Chargers' comeback win over the Oakland Raiders, LaDainian Tomlinson broke his own record for most touchdowns scored in a five game span (15) with 16 TDs (14 rushing, 2 receiving). He also became the 7th player in NFL history to pass, rush, and receive for a touchdown in the same game. In his career, he has thrown for 6 touchdowns without an interception, and his QB rating is in the low 150's (a 'perfect' rating being 158.3). "
The first sentence is good and belongs under Records. The second sentence is false, on 11/26/06, he rushed for 2 TDs and passed (to Antonio Gates) for 1 TD; he didn't receive a touchdown in that game (it was a previous game in which he did all 3). And this does not belong under Records, but under Trivia. The 3rd sentence also belongs under trivia. I'll make those changes, please feel free to comment if you object.
Under the "Records" section someone wrote "Tomlinson has lead the league in rushing attempts every year of his career." This is not true. His league rank in rushing attempts in each of his first 4 seasons is:
2001 - Rank 3rd.
2002 - Rank 2nd.
2003 - Ranks not even in top 10 (despite being 3rd highest rushing yards in NFL that year).
2004 - Rank 6th.
2005 - Rank 5th.
In fact, LT has NEVER lead the league in rush attempts in a season. Your implication that he will burn out just like Eric Dickerson or Earl Campbell is not true. In fact, Marty Schottenheimer has LT on a pitch count to avoid just that. Therefore, I am removing the statement above.
I believe LT has led the league in "touches" per season, but I have not been able to find a site where I can easily look up this statistic.
Can anyone add a description of LT's signature move after a touchdown, when he puts his left hand behind his head and flips the football out of his outstretched right hand?
why do we have to criticize a short man but short people make the best impact in almost every sport.with emmitt smith paving the way for short RB "LT" followed after.
I think that Tomlinson has answered any questions about his "elite" status. The man will be the fastest player to reach 100 touchdowns and has scored 15 TDs over the last 3 games. Any debate over his ability at this point is simply irrelevant.
It needs a better source like an external link or at least the magazine issue and the page number, please see WP:CITE. Anyways one scout that says that he is declining really doesn't mean anything. Jaranda wat's sup 04:15, 31 July 2006 (UTC)
It is not one scout. It is several scouts.--TheTruth2 06:34, 31 July 2006 (UTC)
It still needs a more valid source per WP:CITE like an external link or the magazine issue and page number. Jaranda wat's sup 18:58, 31 July 2006 (UTC)
--TheTruth2 19:24, 31 July 2006 (UTC)it does.
It only has the magazine, it needs the issue and the page number, otherwise it's not
sourced correctly, and a external link is easy to find on this. Jaranda wat's sup 19:29, 31 July 2006 (UTC)
There is no external link. I have listed the magazine and issue as well as the page number. As was reported in Pro Football weekly 2006 page 101 preview--TheTruth2 19:39, 31 July 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Under 60%?
Tomlinson has been held to less than 4 YPC in 45 51 his 89 regular season games: that equals 57.3%. 57.3% is less than 60%, and therefore the statistic listed under the facts section is incorrect.
It is 51 out of 89 It is 57.3 01 11 out of 16 02 10 out of 16 03 7 out of 16 04 10 out of 15 05 9 out of 16 06 4 out of 11
06: 4 out of 8 now. So 51 out of 88 is 58%. As a sign of willingness to end this editing conflict over maintaining factual accuracy I will not change the stat 60%. I have added a line that I hope will stop you and others from continually reverting this edit back and forth and also maintain neutrality (which I find ridiculous, since this is not a controversial figure). I removed your line about receiving average. Rotoworld is not a credited sports statistic site such a espn.com, cbssportsline.com, pro-football-reference.com or nfl.com. Additionally, I could find nothing about the topic you allege rotoworld discusses at the actual site. The stat is petty, unnecessary and overtly negative. It is out of place and encourage others to change it. Please leave it as is and I will leave your 60% YPC as it is, unless of course it falls under 50%. This is my attempt at a compromise. I sincerely hope you accept it.
- For what its worth, I was the one who added the Rotoworld link, as it provided verifiability for a certain other editor who was convinced that 7.1 yards per catch was LOW for an NFL RB. Rototimes.com uses that same stats as NFL.COM, Associated Press, and every other sport media outlet, I only chose Rototimes because their site allows for easy filtering of statistics. The Footballoutsiders.com link was what another editor added to support one of his edits. In any case, it all falls under OR and could easily be removed as far as I'm concerned.---Jackel 14:42, 10 November 2006 (UTC)
You obviously don't understand football or the running back position if you think LT's 7.1 YPC is worth mentioning - I think someone who is an expert on this should come in and clear this up if you are going to be so adamant about it.
The stat you keep adding to the trivia section about LT's YPC being under 4 is irrelevant. LT is simply the best back in the league and a duel threat. The emphasis should be on total yards from scrimage rather than something like YPC.
I removed the whole line with "Tomlinson has averaged more than 4 YPC in his career and less than 4 YPC in nearly 60% of his games." This contradicts itself and I don't know whether the article speaks of yards per catch or yards per carry; nor do I care enough to try and sort it out myself. JaderVason 20:25, 29 November 2006 (UTC)
I updated the "YPC" statistic through the Oakland game this year, and added a comparison to Emmitt Smith for the same statistic. Let me know what you think. 12/2/06.
[edit] 2006 season
under LT's NFL career and accomplishments, this sentence seems out of place and does not belong in an encyclopedic entry: "Also as of December 10, Tomlinson has a lot of all-purpose (combined rushing, receiving, and passing) yards and 34 touchdowns (29 rushing, 3 receiving, and 2 passing)".
who cares if he has a lot??? You can mention how he only needs a few more points to take the record of most points by an NFL player in a single season, but not this junk of a sentence. 14:10, 12 December 2006 —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 155.247.166.29 (talk) 19:10, 12 December 2006 (UTC).
