Talk:Lübeck

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Danzig took over the lead of the hansa There is absolutly no source in history that Danzig ever took over the lead in the hansa, Danzig was the head of the division of hansa cities in (East-) Prussa and Livland. The last session of the old hansa (Hansetag) was in 1669 in Lübeck under its iniative. After that the hansa was represented solely by the three sister cities Bremen-Hamburg-Lübeck. I intend to change that in the article.--Kresspahl 20:41, 8 May 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Status of a City-State

I think this article should mention that Lübeck was once one of the four Hanseatic City-states, and mention how it lost that status. I think it's because East Germany didn't accord it to the bombed-out city of bourgeois merchants who were to be thrown "on the scrap-heap of history," nor, with the change in its capacity as a merchant port, did West Germany upon unification. So what's its current status? It's not going to be a Hamburg, let alone a Frankfurt; is there any active movement to bring this about? --Sobolewski 05:25, 14 January 2006 (UTC)

For the status of Lübeck: Lübeck lost its status by the Greater Hamburg Act in 1937 (Gesetz über Groß-Hamburg und andere Gebietsbereinigungen) when it came to Schleswig-Holstein. The port is No. 4 in Germany and the largest German port at the Baltic.--Kresspahl 12:17, 14 January 2006 (UTC)

I have just created a separate entry for the Free City of Lübeck. See Lübeck (state). At the moment, it contains a fair bit of text that is copied from this page, but I think a separate entry is necessary to avoid any confusion. — 52 Pickup 11:50, 25 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Pronunciation incorrect

The file linked from the article gives an incorrect demonstration of the pronunciation. In fact, the "c" in "Lübeck" has a different function from most other occurences of "ck" in German, where it would indicate a short preceding vowel. In Lübeck (as in Mecklenburg), the "c" belongs to the "e" (rather than the "k") and serves to lengthen it, meaning that the correct pronunciation is "lübeek" as spelled in pseudo-phonological German. This old-fashioned spelling often confuses speakers from outside northern Germany, and indeed "lübekk" is not rarely heard, but nevertheless, the former pronunciation is the historically correct one and the only one that is acceptable to most Lübeckians. Please change the sound file or at least explain the orthographic peculiarities. Thank you. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 91.64.30.201 (talk) 19:20, 8 December 2006 (UTC). PS. The german article has IPA code for the correct pronunciation.