Template talk:Kurds
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I added Mannaeans to the history section of the template. The reason is that the center of Mannaean Kingdom was in Mahabad, a Kurdish city in western Iran, which is part of the geo-cultural region of Kurdistan.[1] Heja Helweda 19:24, 16 February 2006 (UTC)
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- True, but I prefer the template include history of Kurds rather than history of Kurdistan; for if we talk about history of Kurdistan then we must add thousands of other peoples or invaders who inhabited Kurdistan. therefore I suggest to remove Mannaeans. Awat 09:19, 9 November 2006 (UTC)
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- A surprising mistake which here can be asked is that why Medes and Parthians are excluded?? They both spoke northwestern Iranic as Kurds do. In my oponion Kurds can have a better claim for these two than Persians (southwestern Iranic-speaking) do. Why should Kurdish historians give them up to others? Is it wrong to have some common history/ties with Persians?Awat 09:54, 9 November 2006 (UTC)
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- For Medes I agree, however I have not seen any evidence for Parthians being close to Kurds. In fact Parthians originated in northeast of Iranian plateau. For Mannaeans, in fact the Manna/Mannai tribe is considered as an ancestor of Kurds.Heja Helweda 22:10, 9 November 2006 (UTC)
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- Well not all Parthian population became Kurds, but Kurds have a significant Parthian heritage. Parthians although in some cases had wars with Kurds, but seem to be among the most friendly Iranic peoples (unlike for instance Persian Sassanids). Indeed Strabo has refered to Parthians as Corduchi! Awat 23:33, 9 November 2006 (UTC)
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- For Medes I agree, however I have not seen any evidence for Parthians being close to Kurds. In fact Parthians originated in northeast of Iranian plateau. For Mannaeans, in fact the Manna/Mannai tribe is considered as an ancestor of Kurds.Heja Helweda 22:10, 9 November 2006 (UTC)
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None of the peoples in "ancieht history" called themselves Kurds. I dont know if it is even NPOV or WP:V to keep them there but I know for sure it is wrong to list them without disclaimer. Khorshid 10:44, 17 November 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Deletion
[edit] TfD nomination of Template:Kurds
Template:Kurds has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the template's entry on the Templates for Deletion page. Thank you. Khorshid
[edit] Rename
If kept I suggest rename to Template:History of Kurdistan. Khorshid 00:10, 20 November 2006 (UTC)
- This actually makes sense, especially now with Iraqi Kurdistan become more autonomous.Khosrow II 00:51, 20 November 2006 (UTC)
