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[edit] (On Eteocypriot) Ecyp kan- / Etr cenu / Gr kaneon

Interesting connection but I located a pdf listing Coptic vocabulary. It shows that kaneon was borrowed into Coptic from Greek as kaneon or kanoun with the specific meaning "basket of reed or cane, reed basket". I assume this was the meaning in Greek as well. Coincidentally, in Greek "cane" is kanna but this word is traced to a Semitic origin. So if kaneon < kanna < Semitic then it would have no bearing on the Etruscan passive participle cenu nor its Eteocypriot counterpart. Comments? --Glengordon01 22:24, 11 August 2006 (UTC) + Interesting connection but I located a pdf listing Coptic vocabulary. It shows that kaneon was borrowed into Coptic from Greek as kaneon or kanoun with the specific meaning "basket of reed or cane, reed basket". I assume this was the meaning in Greek as well. Coincidentally, in Greek "cane" is kanna but this word is traced to a Semitic origin. So if kaneon < kanna < Semitic then it would have no bearing on the Etruscan passive participle cenu nor its Eteocypriot counterpart. Comments? --Glengordon01 22:24, 11 August 2006 (UTC)

What is the semitic root? Is it truly so? What are some examples? Can you elaborate please? Is it found throughout the Afroasiatic languages? Or is it just a Mediterranean word? Isn't Coptic an Afroasiatic language that should have had that root already? Thanks. --Kupirijo 00:20, 12 August 2006 (UTC)

  • The Semitic root is *qanaw-[1][2] and is secure. It's up to you to follow the links. Your pet theory is quickly getting irritating considering that I've shown it's wrong. I see no logical way to pursue this idea further.
  • I mentioned Coptic simply because if it contains the Greek loan kaneon with specific meaning of "reed basket", then the chances are overwhelming that this is the meaning in Greek itself. However, the Perseus website[3] proves my hunch is correct. Whether Coptic is an Afroasiatic language or not is irrelevant to this.
  • So that all means that kaneon is based on kanna and that kanna CAN'T supply the meaning you're desperately seeking to hold on to your pet theory because it *only* means "reed", nothing to do with "giving". As I always say: "Get real or get lost". --Glengordon01 15:07, 12 August 2006 (UTC)
  • Eteocypriot is a non-Semitic, non-Indo-European language. Cyrus Gordon (unrelated to me) proposed that these Aegean languages had a Semitic connection but only made a jackass of himself in the process, using magic tricks that those read-up on linguistics can smell a mile away. He'd do things like segment inscriptions at whim to concoct his Semitic etymologies out of thin air. --Glengordon01 15:07, 12 August 2006 (UTC)

Thanks.--Kupirijo 15:38, 12 August 2006 (UTC)

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