Talk:Korçë
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[edit] Name in Vlach?
No idea what the name is in Vlach, but the NGA geonames server at http://gnswww.nga.mil/geonames/GNS/index.jsp returns all of these alternative names:
- Korytsa
- Korrçë
- Korrça
- Koritza
- Koritsa
- Körice
- Korica
- Korche
- Korcha
- Korça
- Goritsa
- Gorica
- Ghiortsa Corcia
- Corriza
- Corizza
- Coriza
- Coritza
- Coritsa
- Corcë
Vlach might be in there somewhere but don't ask me which one it is! ;-) -- ChrisO 20:12, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)
[edit] Proof?
As far as Korce is concerned there has always been a large Aromun minority but never in its records have there been Greek names in the area. Does anyone have any proof of it's large "Greek minority" Or is this another case of "Their orthodox, their greek"?
- The fact that there's a newly-opened Greek school, Greek consulate and Greek library in the town, built for "the promotion of Greek culture, Greek literature and Greek language" [1], suggests that there are people there who just might possibly identify themselves as Greek... -- ChrisO 06:23, 15 Jun 2005 (UTC)
Having lived in Korce for several years I myself have noticed these schools. Schools dont constitue a large minority... The Greek government likes to be appeased and so it happens. Check the records of these schools. The majority of attendees are Albanians with ambitions of moving to Greece. The Greek government demands schools for every single Greek. That means if there is two to three families of Greeks in an area, they must build schools. If not, more stuff comes out that Albanians are mistreating Greeks. This is actually a current issue of discussion as the schools are expensive. Theres no denying that there is Greek, just what does "large" or "significant" define? But... whatever.... Iskenderbeg
This article is not NPOV. In the Culture section, it mostly informs about how it is a Greek Orthodox center but no hint about Korca being a cradle of Albanian culture and having the first Albanian school. There has been no Greek presence in Korca except that it has an Orthodox minority. But nowadays Greeks think that all Orthodox peoples are Greek, what a laugh. - UsUnknown Soldier
- There's nothing to stop you adding information... but I've added the point about the school(s), anyway. -- ChrisO
[edit] just added!
Just added a link to Albania in the first part of the topic.
[edit] German Study shows no Greeks in Korce
Nationality map of east central and Southeast Europe 1989-1992
It shows the concentration of Greeks were in Gjirokaster and Sarande but gives no info on any Greeks in Korce.
If someone re-adds the part taken out, will they atleast bring evidence as to why?
So people simply change it because it does not fit their needs?
Here are some quotes from:
T.J. Winnifrith Badlands-Borderlands A History of Northern Epirus/Southern Albania, pg 24
"But in spite of the efforts of Greek schools and churches near Vlore, Berat and Korce, Greek speech only really exists today in the extreme south-west of Albania near Butrint and along the border as far as Kakavia, in three villages along the coast near Himare, and in Drinos valley near Gjirokaster. Even in these areas there are pockets of Albanian speech, and almost all Greek-speakers are bilingual."
Plus how does a Greek school prove minority? On top of that the source for the info is not really the best one since its actually a Greek site.
This seems to be nothing more then dilute what is shown to be a generally homogenous area for "northern Epirus" reasons. I ask a member to look at what I posted, if more is needed I will bring more info.
Tpilkati 03:36, 29 September 2005 (UTC)
Well it seems Athenea has an inept ability to properly debate. On top of this uses an obviously biased stated. Stating they were Greek Orthodox deludes the public into the idea that the population was infact Greek, yet this neglects the fact that there was no Albanian Orthodoxy then and any Albanian of eastern orthodox heritage was seen as Greek. The arguement that all orthodoxy inn general is thought of as Greek, well. I wonder what Russians have to say about this but as a Albanian myself from these lands inwhich this site tries to dilute the population of, I can get rather offended by it since it was so hard for us to separate from it. Yet this is never mentioned. I wonder how Athenea knows of this large Greek population of Korce when he has yet to see an actual count. All counts so far show a clear small minority and a large vlach one. I wonder how much Albanians in here actively go around vandalizing the articles of neighboring countries, mainly that of Greece. Especially without even once discussing it. If ignorance is the issue, then maybe one needs to distance themselves from wiki Tpilkati 03:35, 29 September 2005 (UTC)
