Talk:Knifemaking
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[edit] Merge with Knives
No Merge. While still a stub that not many have adopted, Knifemaking is a whole subject in itself, and should not be combined with the somewhat bloated knife article. It would contain in greater detail subjects touched on in the knives article. Just look at the Basic outline I built, and I have never actually made a knife, though I know some of the theory.--Knife Knut 15:54, 5 January 2006 (UTC)
No merge. Knifemaking is a subject of tremendous scope, depth, and breadth, worthy of remaining a separate subject. It may be that its inclusion under "hobbies" is the problem. It is also a professional craft and an art. It's history is arguably as old as human history, arguably pre-dating "humanity," if one buys into the use of tools by pre-human ancestors contributing to the rise of humankind.
[edit] Splitting off handle woods into new article
Since there are so many, and the formatting is not compatible with the rest of the article, I am splitting off the section into Knife handle woods.
This craft is properly called "knife making," and not "knifemaking." Even though some knife publications use the term, "knifemaking," making a compound word out of the already serviceable terms "knife making, " is just bad writing. Moreover, it corrupts the language with sloppy new jargon. --Sam 00:54, 9 July 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Making knives and 420J2
I like keeping "knifemaking" -- or "knife making," lest I contribute to corrupting the language -- separate, as long as readers can find it. E.g., the current trend in "folders" is considered an artistic and stylistic "movement" by many in the trade. Or, consider that as many top American knife companies collaborate with manufacturers and artisans in the venerated Seki City, Japan, even a few historical aspects seem appropriate.
One suggestion: tweak the existing stainless steel page to include blade attributes, then link to it. Similarly, scale materials don't need to be detailed. I believe the key word in all this is "making." The process should be emphasized.
Lastly, if I may pick a nit ;-), the statement "420J2: Low carbon...Used in poor quality knives..." is a little misleading. 420J2 is indeed a cheaper primary blade steel used in low-end knives. However, 420J2 is also used in high-quality knives to clad high-carbon steels, e.g. VG-10, making them stronger and less likely to corode. Check out the Kershaw Nakamura. I have one and will vouch for its quality. :-) Todd Johnston 00:49, 17 August 2006 (UTC)
