Talk:Klein four-group
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[edit] multiplication table
I hate this not-working links... I'm not a mathematician but isn't a Cayley table essentially a multiplication table? Can't we just say
Its [[multiplication table|Cayley table]] is given by:
plz? ;)
[edit] Name
It is not Viergruppe but Vierergruppe (fours group). I have discussed this with some German mathematicians and it seems that the attribution "Klein" originated as a joke. There is the question whether the Klein group is the abstract group or not. Consensus suggests it is.
- The attribution "Klein" is not a joke. It was Felix Klein who coined the name Vierergruppe.
[edit] Automorphism Group of what Graph?
I don't think the Klein four group is the automophism group of any graph, but it certainly isn't the one of this graph: One can exchange the two related vertices alone, so this is a automorphism and one can exchange the two vertices that are not related to any other, this is another automorphism.
- ...and one can do both, or neither, giving two more automorphisms. Thus we have four automorphisms which commute exactly like the table says they should — looks like the Vierergruppe to me. Or am I misunderstanding something? —Ilmari Karonen (talk) 23:27, 29 November 2005 (UTC)
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- Looks more like isomorphism to me: The permutations aren't the same, but the groups are isomorphic. There actually is no graph which automorphism group is exactly the Vierergruppe. (Or am /I/ missing something? -- Does the article mean equal or isomorphic?)
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- Well, according to the article the name Klein four-group applies to Z2×Z2 or to any group isomorphic to it. So I'd say the concept of the Vierergruppe is effectively only defined up to isomorphism. Of course, that's a matter of definition — one could always pick one specific group out of the equivalence class and call it the canonical Vierergruppe — but the article doesn't appear to do so. —Ilmari Karonen (talk) 15:14, 30 November 2005 (UTC)
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