Talk:Klamath Tribes

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[edit] The following was copied from the Klamath talk page

Katr67 01:39, 9 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Water dispute

2001-2002 Klamath Basin Water Wars

Contestants: Farmers - Fishermen - Tribes

As water adjudication (the process of determining who has legal title to water) moved west, struggles over water rights ensued, and communities divided. One of the last places this process has yet to work itself out in these United States is along the California/Oregon Borderlands of the Klamath Basin. See Right-Farmer view or the Left-Environmentalist view

The irony, for the farmers, was that the tribe was ready to negotiate a mutual water sharing pact, the tribe never wanted to shut off all the farmers water, however this is what ensued after the farmers left the negotiation table. At the Water Committee meeting in 2001 the farming representative described their treatment at the hands of the Federal Government. This garnered the somewhat sympathetic response by a tribal councilman, "They're treating you like they used to treat us!" And perhaps a moment to commiserate. However, the farming representative stood up and said, "We don't want to be treated like any damn Indians." Then all the farmers left the Water committee meeting in a bad feeling. Later their was yet another mediation scheduled in Eugene, Oregon with Judge Tom Coffin, all parties were present except the farmers. THe effect of all this avoidance was the inevitable shutting off all water to the farmers in the Summer of 2001. AND much racial hatred. As expressed by Judge Issacson during the sentencing of three boys from Bonanza who went to Chiloquin and shot up this historically tribal town, You boys aren't going to understand this, because you are racist, and furthermore the Klamath Basin is the most racist area outside of the south...

See... Racism on the Klamath

River Impossible

Example of some of the challenges in this town. Search for Chiloquin

Tensions are presently reduced, but only because the tribe has a go-along-to-get-along attitude.

21:32, 29 August 2006 (UTC)

The recent water rights struggle should be included in the article, but as written this violates WP:NPOV and needs to put into wiki style and made more encyclopedic. Thanks. Katr67 21:49, 29 August 2006 (UTC)

===21st century===

2001-2002 Klamath Basin Water Wars

Contestants: Farmers - Fishermen - Tribes

As water adjudication (the process of determining who has legal title to water) has moved west, struggles over water rights ensues, and communities divide. One of the last places this process has yet to work itself out in these United States is along the California/Oregon Borderlands of the Klamath Basin.

Everyone agrees that this is a very challenging current event that should be acknowledged in Wikipedia. I am being BOLD for bringing this up. It should not just be erased. There are several points of view on this, see the talk page. Don't just erase.

added to article 10:13, August 30, 2006 by 63.24.43.45

I'm not erasing this because there is anything wrong with including the info. But the main article space is not the place to discuss the merits of the information. It needs to be cleaned up and written to match the rest of the article and have the sources cited properly. If I have time later I will see what I can do. Katr67 17:21, 30 August 2006 (UTC)

Here is a good source for the water rights issue—a special series from the [1] Oregonian. These articles all mention the issue: Gale Norton, Klamath River, Upper Klamath Lake, and Klamath Reclamation Project. Some of this could be added to the Klamath article. I think the issue might be worthy of its own article at some point. Katr67 15:25, 1 September 2006 (UTC)