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Contents 1 Kiowa Mythology? 2 language page 3 Pluralization? 4 Jesse Ed Davis and other well-known Kiowa personalities

[edit] Kiowa Mythology?

Does anyone have any information about Pasowee? She was a Kiowa known as the Buffallo Woman, who brought buffallo medicine to her people. Feel free to respond on my talk page Wjbentley 03:39, 10 November 2005 (UTC)

[edit] language page

new lang page: Kiowa language. Cheers! — ishwar  (SPEAK) 13:11, 2005 Apr 4 (UTC)

[edit] Pluralization?

The article switches between the plural form "the Kiowa" and "the Kiowas". I believe the former is the prefered form, but does anyone have a reference? -- Kaszeta 14:14, 4 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Hi.

I think that this depends on your English. Some may like either, some may prefer one over the other. Like,

1. The Germans are a proud people.
2. The German are a proud people.

Some people will probably except both. Others may find one awkward. Some of these are more rigid, like Japanese:

1.  ??The Japaneses are a proud people.
2. The Japanese are a proud people.

For me (and maybe most), Japaneses is sounds rather bad. What about the following?

1. The Iraqi are a proud people.
2. The Iraquis are a proud people.

There is probably a continuum of acceptability regarding the grammaticality of these nouns, which means there will be disagreements among speakers. There are many Englishes throughout the world.

You can compare other ethnic/nationality names:

• Apache vs. Apaches
• Inuit vs. Inuits
• Bantu vs. Bantus
• Twi vs. Twis
• Navajo vs. Navajos

— ishwar  (SPEAK) 15:21, 2005 Apr 4 (UTC)

Okay, but the article shouldn't bounce all willy-nilly between them. -- Kaszeta 16:53, 4 Apr 2005 (UTC)

agreed

What is the Kiowas Religion?....History project uggh

Historically depends upon the century. After that they also migrated according to the hunting cycle. Typically from the Northern Missouri basin and the Dakotas (around the Canadian border), south to Oklahoma and Texas. West they did not venture past the Rocky mts. , and East to Kansas and Nebraska. They were a plains tribe, so think in terms of the plains of the US, where the "buffalo roams" Amerindianarts 23:21, 10 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Jesse Ed Davis and other well-known Kiowa personalities

I had a link to the Wikipedia entry for Jesse Ed Davis a while ago, but I see it has been removed. I understand his art is not directly related to the Kiowa culture, so I understand the removal.

Still, I think it a shame that no mention is included of him, or other well-known Kiowa personalities who may be out there. Would it be inappropriate to add a new section of "well known Kiowa personalities", to include links to musicians -- I would include Davis of course :-) -- and others who are elsewhere in Wikipedia?

I suggest expanding the paragraph on musicians in the section under Kiowa art. I don't know what link you had entered here, but if it was a fansite link like the one at Jesse Ed Davis it will be removed. An internal link in the mention of his name to that Wiki page would be appropriate, but links here should be bio info only. I am still debating whether the Stroud and Flett bios are OK. Mention of the Kiowa influence in their work is good, but I'm not sure about linking to their info outside of Wiki. Flett's influence is plains art in general, while Stroud is specifically Kiowa, although in recent years she has depicted the Cherokee culture as well.

On searching Wiki I found Davis info here, here, and the best bio info here. Amerindianarts 21:25, 27 October 2006 (UTC)