User talk:Kingturtle

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I got married on June 17! And we've relocated from California to New York.

Please note: Most of my replies will be written on this talk page, rather than on your talk page

Also note: It is my policy not to delete or remove dialog from this page. Everything will be saved and archived.

Lastly, if I do not reply to you immediately, it is not because I am ignoring you; I might be in the middle of a project on or offline :)

I have received your recent message. The dates of the first 300 resolutions are complete. I will fill in more if no one else does it. While I see your user page saying "The mood of Wikipedia seems to be one of deleting more articles, which makes me less likely to start new articles", I do not feel starting a new page so badly while you are a bureaucrat but I am not an admin here yet.--Jusjih 13:17, 7 August 2006 (UTC)

thanks for reminding me of the spirit of wikipedia. i think i was in a pessimistic mood when i wrote that. i've removed it now from my user page! cheers, Kingturtle 13:24, 7 August 2006 (UTC)

Welcome back! The Uninvited Co., Inc. 19:00, 7 August 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] Trudi Canavan - advert or article?

Hello. You left a message on Trudi Canavan yesterday stating "this article looks like a sales page. it needs to look like an encyclopedia page." Could you elaborate on this (on the talk page), as I'm unsure which parts of the article look like a sales page and hence need to be reworked? Thanks. Mike Peel 13:06, 8 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Reporting vandalism

Hi Kingturtle. I'm not sure if you're the one I should be telling, but whoever is using IP 165.98.174.199 has been vandalizing articles (so far, "The Castro" and "Pam Anderson"). I've reverted it, but I guess they should be warned. I'm telling you because you're the only admin person I know of. Buck Mulligan 20:35, 9 August 2006 (UTC)

  • The vandal appears to have left. I will monitor the IP's activity. I am happy to help again if you need it. If I am not around, you can ask any of the admins - most should be willing to assist you. Kingturtle 21:14, 9 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Taliban photo

hey. so, my taliban photo? well, i was in afghanistan for a month (july) in 2001 on holidays. i got a return flight to pakistan and i was able to get a visum in peshawar. traveled alone all around the country. you can see my route and more photos at http://travel.bluuurgh.com but i still haven't gotten around to typing out my travel notes (only five years later). Bluuurgh 10:34, 11 August 2006 (UTC)

wow, those photos are really terrific. i'd love to read about your experiences in afghanistan at that time. it must have been fascinating and a bit scary. let me know when you have written out your travel notes. Kingturtle 14:24, 11 August 2006 (UTC) p.s. it'd be nice to use more of those afghan photos on wikipedia.
well, if you have any suggestions... i'm rather reluctant to promote my own photos as i'm not to sure about the quality of some of them. i am prepared to 'public domain' most of my work, shame there's no beer-ware license to select from. Bluuurgh 08:27, 12 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Radio...

Put an external link to the overall subject, which will help make it verifiable. Thanks much, Kukini 17:13, 11 August 2006 (UTC)

i culled the information from many different articles i found through google. what information in the stub are you curious about? Kingturtle 18:02, 11 August 2006 (UTC)
Did it myself...found an AP article that refers to it, thus bringing some verification to the article. Have a good day. Kukini 21:10, 11 August 2006 (UTC)
Thanks. Kingturtle 03:05, 12 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Afghan Provinces

No problem. I also have a (random) interest in Afghanistan. Frankie816 14:09, 13 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Welcoming New Users

Umm, thanks for the message on my talk page. I confess I was a little surprised, because I've been using (and editing) Wikipedia for several years (mostly proofreading that I didn't bother to log in for). But I appreciate the thought. ;-) Congratulations on your marriage. --Bedawyn 19:06, 13 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Afghanistan districts

Hi Kingturtle. Could I possibly ask a small favour, as you seem to have an interest in Afghanistan? Could you please have a quick look at Category:Districts of Afghanistan, and move any of the districts that are still listed in lower-case "district" to upper-case "District". There's about eight or nine of them left, which need an admin to move them, though (as far as I know) the only history on the target articles is redirects to a couple of different places. See Category talk:Districts of Afghanistan for discussion on which naming convention to use. --OpenToppedBus - Talk to the driver 09:12, 14 August 2006 (UTC)

You've clearly been on a Wikibreak for a while. No worries - Merovingian has sorted this out now. --OpenToppedBus - Talk to the driver 10:30, 5 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] United Nations Security Council Resolution

The individual resolution lists (1 to 100, etc) were all created in descending order, but this seems counter-intuitive. What can we do to fix them? --Ruyn 23:39, 15 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Vincent Crane

Hi there! I see you were the last one to have done any work on the page Vincent Crane, which was redirecting it to his band Atomic Rooster (somewhere in 2003). I strongly feel Vincent Crane deserves to have his own page in wiki. So I started one, quite amateuristic until now but hoping it will grow. I hope you don't have any strong feelings against my changing the redirect into a page for Crane alone! I changed nothing to the Atomic Rooster page, btw. I am fairly new here, so I hope I've done it all right...! Thanks. Mark in wiki 15:11, 17 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Project Afghanistan?

Hey Kingturtle. I've noticed you seem to have done a lot of work on various Afghanistan related pages on Wikipedia. Still, despite the best efforts of you and a few others, the general article standard seems quite poor, which is a pity given the doubtless widespread interest. Anyway, I've thought that it might be worthwhile starting a WikiProject: Afghanistan. I was wondering what you thought about such an idea. --RaiderAspect 23:47, 20 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Talk:Boston Tea Party

Howdy, I noticed that you and I seem to post in one or two articles dealing with progressive issues in political science/sociology. There's currently a debate beginning in Boston Tea Party as to whether the article should include the category [1]. It meets definitions set in the articles Terrorism and Definition of terrorism, however, there are several self-proclaimed patriots who watch BTP who refuse to recognise the fact. The simple criteria for terrorism generally seem to be intimidation or destruction of property in order to change public policy or public opinion while a state of war has not yet been declared. Some users would rather use recent acts of terrorism as a yardstick, rather than using a firm definition, and hence lose their ability to discuss matters calmly. Would you be able to pop in to the Talk page and join in the discussion? Thanks much, samwaltz 05:15, 22 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Image:AntonDostler.jpg marked redundant

I've found better quality version of this image on Commons, so I've marked picture you'd uploaded as redundant. Ss181292 10:40, 22 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Skirmish at Lejay, Afghanistan...

You did a lot of work on the Afghanistan timeline. I'd like to ask you to help me trace the source of some of that information. American forces rounded up all the military age males they could find following an ambush outside the village of Lejay, Afghanistan, on February 10, 2003. February 10, 2003 is the date supplied in the transcripts of the Combatant Status Review Tribunals and Administrative Review Board hearings of the Afghans who ended up in Guantanamo. The US forces had called in air support when they were ambushed on the 10th.

The Afghan timeline says American forces subjected Lejay to an aerial bombardment on February 11th, killing 17 civilians.

I am trying to figure out there was a mixup of dates, or whether the Americans subjected Lejay and vicinity to two aerial bombardments. The transcripts don't give any hint that there were any casualties, on either side. One of the transcripts, however, described the ambusher's fire as '"viscious". Between you and I I think this suggests a lack of professionalism on the part of the person writing the after-action report.

Cheers! -- Geo Swan 18:59, 26 October 2006 (UTC)

Geo Swan, my source for most of my Afghan timeline information was http://www.myafghan.com/default.asp . That site used to have an extensive archive of news stories from AP, Reuters, etc. and some British news services dating back many years. Because of copyright issues, however, that site had to remove its archive. It is a shame; it was an extremely valuable resource.
Because that site no longer has its archive, I cannot tell you the source. What I can tell you is that I was extremely careful and meticulous in my descriptions of news reports.
In my experience reading so many news stories about Afghanistan, there were sometimes conflicting dates. The same event was sometimes given different dates. For example, one article written on October 2, 2003 (a Thursday) might say an event happened "today" while another article written on October 3, 2003 (a Friday) might say the event happened "Wednesday" (October 1). I did my best to get the dates in the timeline accurate, but there might be some mistakes due to the subtle inaccuracy of the sources.
I hope this helps you a little, Kingturtle 06:08, 1 November 2006 (UTC)
Thanks. I could tell you were careful, and didn't mean to leave the impression I was challenging your accuracy. I just wanted to consult to primary source myself.
I have encountered situations where there was a source I expected to expire, and wondered whether there was a way to get sites like the waybackmachine to preserve a snapshot. I believe that the waybackmachine, and the similar sites, all honour the no-robots instruction. Of course you didn't have any clue the pages you were using would expire.
About this particular skirmish... I didn't see any of the documents the DoD released refer to any US casualties. But one of the references said the ambushers subjected the US forces to a "vicious fire". Kind of a stupid phrase, IMO. I think we can assume that, if an enemy is firing at you, unless they are firing warning shots, they plan to cause as many casualties as possible. Anthropomorphizing their fire seems unprofessional.
FWIW, I think the transcripts from the captives taken following this skirmish demonstrate some of the weaknesses of the Guantanamo intelligence efforts. One of the arguments of those who favor stripping the detainees of the protections of the rule of law is that soldiers aren't cops, and can't be expected to read prisoners their Miranca rights, or to preserve a proper "chain of custody" of the evidence against them.
Abdul Bagi says he wasn't interrogated until a week after his capture. He is alleged to have thrown a rifle down a well. He acknowldeges being captured near a well. He said that the water in the well was (1) shallow, (2) clear -- and that observers would have been able to clearly see a much smaller object than a rifle, if it was lying at the bottom of the well. He said that they would have been able to see an object as small as a pen at the bottom of the well. From my reading of the transcripts it seems like the US forces found a single AK-47. And, when the dossiers were composed against the detainees, the allegations against them attributed ownership of the single weapon to multiple suspects.
Anyhow, thanks again for your reply. -- Geo Swan 14:50, 3 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Request advice on revisions to Nortel Networks article

On October 30, 2006, the text of the Nortel Networks article was replaced with text that appears to come from the company's own press materials, such as http://www.nortel.com/corporate/pressroom/collateral/corporate_backgrounder_feb2006.pdf and http://www.nortel.com/corporate/index.html . I am reluctant to just revert the article to its previous version, as there is more current information present, though of course since it comes straight from Nortel's PR, it has a great deal of feel-good wording. Other than the timeline information, which is taken from the PDF link I gave, all history information has been lost, including discussion of the recent financial issues. I'm not sure what is the usual course of action in cases like this; can you provide any advice? Isaac Lin 07:29, 1 November 2006 (UTC)

Upon further reflection, I plan to revert the article and request that any updates be integated into the older article. I do not believe it to be appropriate for the article to be a direct copy from PR material, and want to avoid having more people submit updates on top of this version of the article. Isaac Lin 14:18, 2 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Re:Roger Clemens salary

O.o I seem to have met my first old school admin.

Anyway, if you were still interested, I found the link for Roger Clemens' $USD 22 million dollar salary for 2006. See Talk:Roger Clemens. Nishkid64 03:03, 3 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Question re your 01:43, 18 November 2003 edit to IBM 604

You added See also: [[List of IBM products]]. I'm curious why, what value does this add to the article? Most IBM machine articles do not have that text and I tend to think in terms of all or none. Thanks 69.106.232.37 06:22, 15 November 2006 (UTC)

  • So that readers could learn more about other products IBM developed. Kingturtle 22:01, 15 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Philanthropist

I've added the "{{prod}}" template to the article Philanthropist, suggesting that it be deleted according to the proposed deletion process. All contributions are appreciated, but I don't believe it satisfies Wikipedia's criteria for inclusion, and I've explained why in the deletion notice (see also "What Wikipedia is not" and Wikipedia's deletion policy). Please either work to improve the article if the topic is worthy of inclusion in Wikipedia, or, if you disagree with the notice, discuss the issues at Talk:Philanthropist. You may remove the deletion notice, and the article will not be deleted, but note that it may still be sent to Articles for Deletion, where it may be deleted if consensus to delete is reached, or if it matches any of the speedy deletion criteria. — Sebastian (talk) 03:39, 8 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Segway Geeks
Because of your outstanding contributions to Segway PT and/or Geek, you have been selected for the Wikipedia group Segway Geeks.

Geeklera Segway Geek 21:13, 11 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Image:Berg-chair.jpe listed for deletion

An image or media file that you uploaded or altered, Image:Berg-chair.jpe, has been listed at Wikipedia:Images and media for deletion. Please look there to see why this is (you may have to search for the title of the image to find its entry), if you are interested in its not being deleted. Thank you. —Strothra 18:35, 12 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Shakers FAR

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