Talk:Kingdom of Cornwall

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I think this would be better placed under the title "Kingdom of Cornwall", then linked to the article on modern Cornwall. Does anyone object? -- llywrch 23:47, 25 Apr 2004 (UTC)

The link is a good idea. I see as a disadvantage of changing the title that when people see Kingdom of Cornwall they will think of Cornwall under its modern boundaries rather than the much larger Kernyw/Dumnonia of the 5th and 6th centuries. Also, I have hardly ever seen in books etc references to the 'Kingdom of Cornwall' . The most important question for the title is what do readers type into their search boxes to lead them to this page? WHat do you think? pachiaammos 07:43 26 Apr 2004

By "linked to" I meant that the article on Cornwall should link to it to cover the portion of the history prior to, say AD 800. Similar to how Sussex links to the Kingdom of Sussex, Kent to the Kingdom of Kent, etc. If the terminology "Kingdom of Cornwall" isn't applicable, then perhaps "Kingdom of Dumnonia" or just "Dumnonia". The reason I suggest this is that the connection of Kernyw with Cornwall wasn't apparent to me right off the bat -- & I'd venture that I know much more of the history of that corner of the world than the average Wikipedia user.

(P.S. It seems that you solved the problem with the tildes. Congrats!) -- llywrch 02:00, 27 Apr 2004 (UTC)

<<Dumnonia>>, or <<Dumnonia, Kingdom of>> is acceptable - people have heard of it:-) If you can link it to Somerset and Devon as well as Cornwall, so much the better. There is already an entry for <<Dumnonii>> which refers to Roman times so there is a case for merging these two.

I also think it should be joined under the heading for the Dumnonii tribe. If there was a sub-kingdom from Cornwall in Arthurian times, the Dumnonii ruling house is referred with as Corneu in some Middle Welsh texts, which seems to imply that Dumnonia and Kernyw are the same thing by at least the late 6th century.

In any case, nearly anything's better than "Kernyw", which is a name really nobody uses in English (10 google hits for Kernyw, about 3,600 for the Welsh spelling Cernyw, and 72,000 for the Cornish spelling Kernow). I'm going to move this to Kingdom of Cornwall then, as that seems to have met little resistance. QuartierLatin1968 08:30, 9 Dec 2004 (UTC)