Talk:Kingda Ka
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[edit] Picture vote
Which of these two pictures should be used as the main picture? I took both of them and I can't decide which is better, I'd like some input. Dusso Janladde 03:19, 19 April 2006 (UTC) 
The first picture seems to be with a better colour, however the second picture has a better view of the second hill. Why not have both the pictures in the article?--Steven 21:05, 19 April 2006 (UTC)
Picture #1 because of color and a nice angle. The cars/parking lot ruin picture #2. I think there are some good pics on the net of KK taken from the pond, before El Toro got in the way.
[edit] Changes
Someone needs to change this article to be in the presnt tense rather then future tense, as this ride is now built and running, also I expect there is probably more information that could be added! Ok, someone literally changed this page right after I had posted this, and now it is good!
I heard that dummies fell out of the test run on the way up. don't know if it's true but sounds scary to me!
Of course they look the same, THEY WERE BOTH BUILT BY INTAMIN AG! Ian Rubin 5 July 2005 19:16 (UTC)
Where did the 20,800 horsepower figure that the motor is capable of come from? Is there a reliable source? The peak horsepower that the motor will ever put to the train is 'only' 7400, straight from Six Flags themselves: www.sixflags.com/parks/greatadventure/pdf/kingdaka-factsheet.pdf www.sixflags.com/parks/greatadventure/ParkPress/031705KKfactSheet.html
[edit] Re:Changes
Well, it's not currently running. It's "broken." Part of the launch track got dislodged and broke other parts of the ride. Also, when they were testing it before it opened, the dummies' HEADS fell off.
NO DUMMIES HEADS FELL OFF!! CAN PEOPLE JUST STOP SAYING THAT?
[edit] The dummies are intact!
Will you please stop it with all of these rumors with the dummies! None of it is true!!! It never happened! Erase it from your mind! No dummies ever fell out, nor did any heads come off! If that did happen, do you think they would have opened it at all this season? Do you really think Six Flags wants heads of people coming off on one of their rides? Lawsuit-city! They'd go bankrupt, and besides, the state of NJ wouldn't have passed the ride in its test, and NJ is known as one of the states with one of the stricter roller coaster tests. No more about the dummies, okay?
- "Boss, the dummy's heads all fell off on the test ride."
- "Ah, the hell with it, just let those kids on already."
[edit] Huh?
These sentences:
- It is 151 feet (46 m) taller than the Statue of Liberty, including its pedestal and base.
don't quite make sense to me. Can someone clear them up? :: Salvo (talk) 04:05, 7 January 2006 (UTC)
I'll try to explain it... take a look at Image:Liberty-statue-with-manhattan.jpg. Notice how there's the actual statue, as well as the pedestal and base? The overall height, from the ground to the torch, is 305 feet. The height of the statue by itself, not including the pedestal, is 151 feet. If you were to put Kingda Ka next to the statue, the top of Kingda Ka would be 151 feet higher than the torch. In other words, if you were to hypothetically put a second statue on top of the first, its torch would be 456 feet high, the same height as Kingda Ka. Dusso Janladde 17:53, 16 January 2006 (UTC)
So why not just say it's twice as tall? CrossEyed7 22:44, 27 January 2006 (UTC)
Because it's not twice as tall. It's as tall as two statues plus one pedestal and base. 144.133.84.192 07:30, 30 January 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Extra seat mounts
Can anybody, perhaps a SFGA employee, confirm that there are indeed extra seat mounts under the panel shown in this picture and this picture? If so, are the stations already set up for loading and unloading this extra row (i.e. do they already have the gates for it)? I can't tell from any pictures I've seen. Dusso Janladde 18:12, 16 January 2006 (UTC)
- Both have been confirmed from a conversation with a ride operator. Dusso Janladde 00:27, 9 April 2006 (UTC)
[edit] MegaStructures
Justy fyi, that a MegaStructures article exists. This coaster was featured on the show MegaStructures recently. I started a stub article for MegaStructures - if you want to work the fact of being a documentary subject into the article, or watch the show and point at the article in your reference section.
[edit] On-ride photo
Would a scan of an on-ride photo with the faces blurred out qualify as fair use for this article? I feel that it would be notable because it actually consists of two seprate pictures (from the launch and the brake run) rather than one picture as most do. Dusso Janladde 00:27, 9 April 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Ride Duration
Six Flags' Website states that the ride duration is 50.6 seconds. In my mind, 28 seconds sounds more realistic. Thoughts?--NPswimdude500 02:13, 27 April 2006 (UTC)
- 50.6 seconds is the time from when you leave the station until you return to the station. 28 seconds is the time from the beginning of the launch to the end of the brake run (about where the second camera is), which is what matters. Dusso Janladde 09:20, 2 May 2006 (UTC)
- Thanks for the clarification--NPswimdude500 01:32, 31 May 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Reason for Removal
I removed this from the "interesting facts" section:
- Another Roller Coaster similar (but not as impressive) as the Kingda Ka is called Stealth at Thorpe Park, UK, making it 3rd tallest and the fastest roller coaster in Europe at 205 ft high and an acceleration of 0 - 80 mph in 2 seconds. It has G-Forces of up to 4.5 G's, 1.5 more than an astronaut taking off into space.
The only other roller coaster that really deserves mention here is Top Thrill Dragster. It's the only other coaster of this type that is over 400 feet tall. The rest - and there are a total of 11 operating or under construction (see Accelerator Coaster#List of Accelerator Coasters - are all 213 feet tall or shorter, which is about half as tall as Top Thrill Dragster. It's completely unnecessary to mention just one of these in this article, as Kingda Ka and Top Thrill Dragster are the only two that, shall I say, stand out from the crowd. The only accelerator coaster in the 200-foot range that could be mentioned here is Xcelerator, since it was the first of this design. Dusso Janladde 09:31, 2 May 2006 (UTC)
- On second thought, the fact that Stealth's layout is exactly the same as Kingda Ka's but on a smaller scale (and, of course, lacking Kingda Ka's 270-degree twist) could be mentioned here, but it's really the only aspect of Stealth that deserves mention in this article.Dusso Janladde 09:34, 2 May 2006 (UTC)
- As I understand it, this remark means to say that Stealth is the third tallest coaster in Europe, correct? Because it is certainly not the third tallest in the world --NPswimdude500 01:36, 31 May 2006 (UTC)
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- We in Europe tend to posess the 'younger brothers' of all the big boys in America. I'm going on Stealth this next Wednesday, and so far it is the closest thing we have to the almighty greatness of Kingda Ka. So while it might not be anywhere near the third-highest in the world, it is a Kingda Ka clone and the third highest in Europe, so it certainly deserves a mention. Lady BlahDeBlah 20:32, 1 June 2006 (UTC)
It still doesn't deserve mention in this article.
[edit] NPOV tag
I put this tag here for the sake of 151.198.230.12. I do not pretend to know anything about this coaster. If you do, consider talking to Mr. Anonymous, not MrFish :) -- MrFishGo Fish 16:00, 12 May 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Is this correct?
After a rollback occurs, the train will be brought back to the station where the riders have the choice of getting off or riding again.
I know that after being lauched 128 mph and you don't make it over, it comes back and launches 160 mph. I do not think it goes back to the station.
- That's total BS. If it launched at 160 mph, everyone on the train would be severely injured by the negative G forces as the train sped over the tophat. Also, there aren't enough brakes to slow a train traveling that fast to a safe speed, so it would crash into the next train. Not to mention the fact that the motor isn't even capable of launching a train that fast, not even close. I've seen it roll back with people on it, in fact I was next in line for the front row of the train that rolled back! Dusso Janladde 19:50, 3 August 2006 (UTC)
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- Can anybody inform us why the coaster sometimes rolls back? Is it a matter of weight distribution, a flaw in the launch mechanism...any idea why this happens? -Etoile 01:07, 25 September 2006 (UTC)
That's garbage
[edit] Pronunciation
Can someone please record the pronunciation of "Kingda Ka"?
It is pronouced exactly how it looks
Pronounced: Kingder-Car.
That's not even close to how it's pronounced! King - da - Ka! Not very hard, is it?
According to Megastructures it is pronounced Kingder Car, although it does not make much sense. Speed2006 17:01, 6 October 2006 (UTC)
[edit] May 5th 2006
Can I just ask why the loss of someone's mobile phone was mentioned, as I find no other link to it in the rest of the section?
- It's possible that the phone had fallen onto the launch track and caused the breakdown. Dusso Janladde 23:29, 6 August 2006 (UTC)
[edit] I'm pretty sure the tiger was named after the coaster...
...not the other way around! But according to 68.39.144.66's edit, the coaster is named after the tiger. Maybe Mr. Anonymous is a park employee, but I wouldn't bet on it. Dusso Janladde 12:02, 4 September 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Three Skylines
I tagged the claim that the skylines of New York, Philly, and AC as dubious. It would be good to get a source on this. It smacks of the kind of claim to drum-up publicity a la Rock City or as an urban legend. AC from Jackson seems to be the hardest to believe. Roodog2k 19:33, 12 December 2006 (UTC)
