Talk:Kids With Guns / El Mañana
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[edit] First track?
The Gorillaz official fansite states that the single is titled "El Mañana" / "Kids With Guns". link. Cbing01 22:50, 6 March 2006 (UTC)
the wording on the single is listed as Kids With Guns / El Manana
[edit] Designer Of The Year exhibition/Noodle connection
The article stated that the exhibition was opened AFTER the video was premiered which was incorrect - the exhibition opened a whole week before the video was shown. The picture shown in the exhibition was the same one as on the single cover so it is unlikely to be a sign of her being alive.
I do think she's alive but that this was not a valid connection.
[edit] It fell out of the top 40
But it actually fell to number 57. Worth mentioning? Sweetie Petie 12:01, 29 April 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Hell hole.
Hey, did anyone notice the "Hell Hole" In the site lately. With blood painty the words "The Fire is coming out the Monkey's Head" Now with a fancy counter. How are they counting it though....
[edit] Grammar???
I'm pretty sure that the phrase "El Mañana" is incorrect. "Mañana" is a feminine noun in the Spanish language. The indefinite artice, "El" is masculine. The correct phrase would be "La Mañana". This could be a subject, but is a trivial fact to the song.
--The above unsigned comment made by 68.83.162.78 at 23:16, 16 May 2006 (UTC)
For one thing, "El" is a definite article, not indefinite. Sorry, I just had to point that out. Probably just a typo. For another thing, "Mañana" is a word that can be both masculine or feminine, with different meanings depending on the gender used. While "La Mañana" would mean "The Morning," "El Mañana" would mean "The Tomorrow." Maybe I'll add that to the page. Bleh, no time now. --myncknm 13:27, 19 May 2006 (UTC)
Why would that change the songs name? --Worthlessboy1420 03:52, 1 October 2006 (UTC)
[edit] I couldn't help but notice...
The phrase "some fans have suggested" was changed to "But what Albarn probably meant." Is that really a legitimate claim to make? I didn't see the interview myself, but it's pretty bold to make such an ascertive claim to what sounds like it could be a fairly ambiguous statement. Sounds more like an opinion than anything, but I'll let someone who's actually seen it decide.
Frankly, my opinion is that if Albarn's exact words were that she was "killed off" and that she may "come back," that sounds to me like he means like she's been killed off. I hope Noodle's alive as much as the next guy, but most of the arguments I hear about how Albarn meant "she only died in the video" strike me as fans grasping for straws, desperate for hope that she's alive. But that's just my two cents.--Foot Dragoon 11:14, 25 May 2006 (UTC)
ahem. its called IRONY! they use it all the time!!!
[edit] The video
Well, I've managed to locate the company that made the video and I've learned that the video was a mixture of real time, 2d and 3d animation. But does anyone know what tools were used to create the video and if it could be utilised for, say, a webcomic? Would rendering take to long even for just stills? Sorry if this sounds like an ulterior motive, but the island is realy nifty. --80.42.144.56 18:47, 26 June 2006 (UTC)
My impression is that, that video, short as it was, probably took months for a team of trained experts to create. You can see every blade of grass on the thing, and the wind motion is so realistic! The article on 3D computer graphics says that complex scenes can take up to an hour to render. Estimating 5 minutes a frame at 30 fps, that video would've taken 35000 minutes, or 583.33 hours, which is over 20 days. That's just my estimate. I might be well off, but considering that it was made by a professional team paid by a major record label, I'd not bet on a hobbyist reasonably being able to do something like that. --myncknm 06:12, 29 June 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Short little delete
I didn't want to make the summary too long, but I thought it needed to be stated here: there was a comment saying the words "El Manana" do not appear in the song. This is barely needed; most gorillaz songs don't include the title: Clint Eastwood, 19-2000, Dirty Harry, and Feel Good Inc. (well, the song song contains Feel Good and Inc. in seperate instances). As such, i deleted it. I just think it's a bit of a trivial manner, probably better said in the Gorillaz article. Taylor 06:46, 1 July 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Mañana
since when has this word been pronounced Munyuna????? its more like Maan or Mon + yahna, def not yuna.
The ñ makes it sound that way, like in El Niño.
[edit] Sampling of "Push It"
Kids With Guns has a lot of "push it, push it real push it" in it, and the Gorillaz Unofficial article claims that the lyrics are from the Salt-N-Pepa song of the same name. My question is: did Neneh Cherry simply sing the lyrics from the other song, or is she simply the touring vocalist for that part and that the studio version samples it? Taylor 05:51, 13 August 2006 (UTC)
No one is saying push it. He is saying "is she real?" --Worthlessboy1420 03:55, 1 October 2006 (UTC)
Wrong. It's Salt-N-Pepa's "Push It". The line is commonly misinterpreted as "Is she real" but she's saying "Push it real". I'm sure that the studio recording samples from the song, but Neneh Cherry actually sang at the live shows.
[edit] Ambiguity in video
I've just noticed that when the island crashes in the music video, the smoke is thicker near the top and is irregularly shaped. It resembles a question mark. Could it mean anything? --80.42.145.77 14:24, 18 August 2006 (UTC)
Good Catch! I just looked at the video again and the question mark looks "intentional." It being at the moment of crashdown may represent the following mystery (the fans bickering and debating :D ).
[edit] "Louie Louie" and "Kids With Guns"
Does anyone here think that the opening to "Kids With Guns" sounds like the main riff for "Louie Louie?" (Pro X 20 19:25, 2 September 2006 (UTC))
[edit] Rewrite of Article
Now we know what Happened to Noodle, the entry needs to be rewritten. Lots of it is in the present tense, talking about past ideas as if they had just happened. I'm gonna neeed some help on this. --Gerkinman TNG 19:37, 28 November 2006 (UTC)
