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  2. January 2006 – March 2005
  3. April 2006 – June 2006
  4. July 2006 – September 2006
  5. October 2006 – December 2006
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Contents

Gulp

Thanks for the message, Kevin. So, having supported Huck Finn for nomination I'm in the frame to help, eh? Will try to get to that. (Makes mental note not to support anything for nomination in the future ;)) --Sordel 13:27, 2 October 2006 (UTC)

Not serious, no, but you couldn't have picked a worse month ... I'm hoping to finish the Poirot sequence over the next two weeks because I'm busy after that. Still, I'll try to get over to Twain before November. --Sordel 20:52, 2 October 2006 (UTC)

Novels list

ow... I got very busy with the startup of WP:VP2. I can try to run tonight or tommarrow night. Sorry about that. —— Eagle (ask me for help) 22:48, 2 October 2006 (UTC)

Sacred Hunger

Thanks for helping me with the article, I didn't have enough information to complete the infobox. Is there a site or method for finding the first edition of a novel? I had a look on a couple of sites but I wasn't sure which edition was the first. The one on amazon was a newer version I believe. Could you help me find the cover for the book as well?

Thanks for your help, and sorry for my inexperience with the novels area. I'm writing up a plot summary for the book at the moment, it will probably take me a week or two to skim through the book again (it's been many months since I read it) and then condense it into a synopsis.

Kind regards, Richard001 07:34, 3 October 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for your help. I haven't been able to get a good picture of the first edition, I found one from a side angle and one here [1] that's too small. I guess it will have to be left blank for now, unless the Norton paperback or some other edition would be suitable, or a picture of the original hardback can be found somehow. I'll get back to the article in a few days time and add some more material as you suggested. I've taken a look at the novels wikiproject and it was very helpful for starting the article, I'll try to keep to the format and look at other novel articles for examples. Thanks again, Richard001`

The Magic Christian

Hi, I had a long day yesterday splitting the novel from the film and correcting all the many links in articles pointing to each. Now the original The Magic Christian article has turned into the disambiguation page and all former edit history (as I noted in both articles' discussions) is to be found there. The novel stub is at The Magic Christian (novel) and links to The Magic Christian (film) too. The user who had started the original article, as a novel, got a bit upset to find it turned into a stub, so any further work on the novel will be very appreciated. I have created book infobox with an image I uploaded and moved there a former version of the original before it started getting mixed with film entries. Hoverfish 11:09, 4 October 2006 (UTC)

I am running it now

you know what this is for :) Yes I will look into making a tool for others to use. —— Eagle (ask me for help) 19:04, 5 October 2006 (UTC)

P.S. I am really sorry.
I am having heck doing this... the query.php interface got changed somewhere in the last month or so... I am working on this full time. —— Eagle (ask me for help) 23:30, 5 October 2006 (UTC)
Almost done. 1500 to go... —— Eagle (ask me for help) 01:34, 6 October 2006 (UTC)
Hate to say it, but that means we have more articles. Basically we have tagged more articles improperly then we have fixed. There were approx 4300 articles using the {{Infobox Book}} template.`The criteria are the same. —— Eagle (ask me for help) 13:18, 6 October 2006 (UTC)
I can run other lists in about 8 hours. Want others run? —— Eagle (ask me for help) 13:21, 6 October 2006 (UTC)

The Novels WikiProject Newsletter - Issue V - October 2006

The Novels WikiProject Newsletter
Issue V - October 2006
Project news
  • Our project has been working on novel articles for sometime now and has just passed the 4000 articles tagged as part of the project. Already we are on 4441 as of today.
  • The /Assessment department has been making progress with discussions on the top priority level of novels. These are those articles that should be present in any version of this encyclopedia.
  • The "Members" list has been modified (preparatory to removing the inactive ones to an archive or "inactive" list).
Member News
  • The project has currently 142 members, 16 joined & 0 leavers since the last newsletter at the start of September 2006.
From the Members

Welcome to the fifth issue of the Novels WikiProject's newsletter! Use this newsletter as a mechanism to inform yourselves about progress at the project and please be inspired to take more active roles in what we do.

We would encourage all members to get more envolved and if you are wondering what with, please ask.

Kevinalewis : (Talk Page)/(Desk), Initiating Editor
Auto list news
  • Those working on auto generated lists have been a bit quiet recently. However there have been some work done on the /NovelsInCompleteInfobox list, focusing on adding those missing "genre" entries - however after being rerun today after a 2 month gap the number of articles selected has gone up from 1049 to 1172. We need help to ensure the informatin gets added to the infoboxes.
Collaboration of the Month
Current debates
Newsletter challenge
  • The first person to start the article is mentioned in the next newsletter. This months' article is Liponym.

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House Made of Dawn Redux

Hiya. All the mess with House Made of Dawn looks to be kicking off again. Could you do me a favour and keep an eye on it? HQCentral's bullying tactics can get a little wearing if anyone has to face him individually (look at all the fights he's had at Collier's Dictionary for evidence). Cheers! Vizjim 09:51, 7 October 2006 (UTC)

Wilson covers

Thanks. Unfortunately I don't have any of those books so I can't replace the covers myself. I tried to find out exactly why the covers were removed, and from what I can see the fellow who uploaded them got into an argument with people who felt the covers shouldn't be used and decided to remove all his uploads out of fear of copyright violation. It seems he might have also used photographs of the covers rather than actual scans (maybe he has no scanner) but that shouldn't make a difference in terms of fair use. Just the tone of the discussion (I don't have a link but check the history of Cosmic Trigger I and you'll see the fellow who removed the images) led me to wonder whether something hadn't changed ... again. 23skidoo 14:30, 10 October 2006 (UTC)

{NovelsWikiProject}

Hi Kevin, I'm not sure how to go about using AWB to put the novelswiki template on talk pages. Grey Shadow 14:55, 10 October 2006 (UTC)

Hercule Poirot

Kevin, I've finished today my immediate task of producing B-class articles for all the late Poirot novels (pretty much everything after Death on the Nile). I've also done quite a lot of work on the Hercule Poirot article itself and I'd appreciate it if you could find some time to take a look at its current state, reassess it, and let me know how we could think about getting it up to A-class. Thanks in advance. --Sordel 16:55, 12 October 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for the investment of time to check this (and for the encouragement). As I understood it, one isn't supposed to nominate for GA status something that one has worked on oneself. Is that wrong? --Sordel 08:10, 13 October 2006 (UTC)

Liberty

Thanks for that. --Guinnog 13:31, 17 October 2006 (UTC)

Novels project

I'd really rather not. I want to keep the userboxes and categories to a minimum. (The babel categories are irritating enough - I'm inclined to subst them and remove the categories). john k 23:13, 17 October 2006 (UTC)

I don't have any other categories based on wikiprojects, so it feels awkward to give myself one based on that. I'm on the list of users, I feel as though that's sufficient. john k 10:39, 18 October 2006 (UTC)

Ayesha

Thanks for the photo and infobox details on Ayesha -- awesome you got a photo of the first edition! --Bookgrrl 12:03, 18 October 2006 (UTC)

Olympic Barnstar

The Olympics Barnstar
You are awarded this barnstar for your monumental contributions to expanding Olympic coverage on Wikipedia.Blnguyen | BLabberiNg 08:26, 19 October 2006 (UTC)

Orphaned fair use image (Image:VladimirNabokov lolita.jpg)

Thanks for uploading Image:VladimirNabokov lolita.jpg. I notice the 'image' page currently specifies that the image is unlicensed for use on Wikipedia and may only be used on Wikipedia under a claim of fair use. However, the image is currently orphaned, meaning that it is not used in any articles on Wikipedia. If the image was previously in an article, please go to the article and see why it was removed. You may add it back if you think that that will be useful. However, please note that images for which a replacement could be created are not acceptable under fair use (see our fair use policy).

If you have uploaded other unlicensed media, please check whether they're used in any articles or not. You can find a list of 'image' pages you have edited by clicking on the "my contributions" link (it is located at the very top of any Wikipedia page when you are logged in), and then selecting "Image" from the dropdown box. Note that any fair use images not used in any articles will be deleted after seven days, as described on criteria for speedy deletion. Thank you. – Quadell (talk) (random) 14:06, 24 October 2006 (UTC)

A Series of Unfortunate Events

Hi,

I know you're very busy, but I wonder if you'd mind taking another look at the articles pertaining to the book series A Series of Unfortunate Events. You added a standard infobox to one of the 13 main book articles, The Austere Academy (I guess you're working through a list alphabetically) on 29 September, and to my surprise, no-one has tried to revert the article to the style of infobox which the other articles have (about which I shall refrain from commenting). I listed the other books under InfoboxNeeded on 5 October, but for some reason, the listing was removed by user:N4nojohn on 25 October 2006. I've just noticed, and added them again.

I have been working to raise the standard of these articles for some time, in the face of well-intentioned but utterly unencyclopedic contibutions from young enthusiasts. I think that the addition of proper infoboxes with relevant content would help to improve the standard of these articles immensely. In any case, having one article out of a series of thirteen with a different style infobox just seems odd.

I know I could do it myself, but with all the film and novel articles getting split by amateurs these days, I've got my hands full with link repair at the moment, with a big backlog of film related articles waiting to be worked on. Besides, it's posible that such changes could prove controversial, and I'll find them easier to defend if I haven't made them myself. ;)

Any chance of jumping the queue?

  1. Lemony Snicket - The Bad Beginning
  2. Lemony Snicket - The Reptile Room
  3. Lemony Snicket - The Wide Window
  4. Lemony Snicket - The Miserable Mill
  5. Lemony Snicket - The Austere Academy
  6. Lemony Snicket - The Ersatz Elevator
  7. Lemony Snicket - The Vile Village
  8. Lemony Snicket - The Hostile Hospital
  9. Lemony Snicket - The Carnivorous Carnival
  10. Lemony Snicket - The Slippery Slope
  11. Lemony Snicket - The Grim Grotto
  12. Lemony Snicket - The Penultimate Peril
  13. Lemony Snicket - The End (A Series of Unfortunate Events)


It's only twelve.... it could be worse....

TheMadBaron 15:27, 28 October 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for the note - my main interest (for reasons which even I don't understand) is in disambiguation, so if you have any dab work you'd like to dump on me, please feel free. TheMadBaron 14:16, 30 October 2006 (UTC)
managed to get some done - after a fashion need some more work
These are done - but looks like there might eb a fourteenth

Wikiproject banner addition

Hi Kevin - thanks for the comment - I wasn't sure whether or not to, and since most templates are I decided to go with that. I'll just use the template in future :D. Ck lostsword|queta!|Suggestions? 16:45, 30 October 2006 (UTC)

Good advice. Thanks very much again - it's always useful to have someone correcting you on the finer points of Wikipedia. See you around. Ck lostsword|queta!|Suggestions? 17:33, 30 October 2006 (UTC)

Novels Collaboration of the Month

You supported Doctor Zhivago, which has been selected as the Novels WikiProject's new Collaboration of the Month. Please help improve this article towards featured article standard. :: Kevinalewis : (Talk Page)/(Desk) 11:20, 1 November 2006 (UTC)

LoC

Yeah, you're right. I know all about the ISBN-13s too. I'm not only a cataloger, but I also order textbooks for my school. Thanks for your comment. Cheers! Pegship 16:32, 1 November 2006 (UTC)

re: Rook

Okay, I was just trying to get people aware of the novel's.

Blindness (Saramago)

Hello, I just thought I'd tell you that I copy edited what I think you wrote on this novel. It was great, but I'm under the impression it should be much shorter? Do you mind if I cut it some? I'm relatively new to wikipedia and don't want to step on any toes. (Especially those of a Saramago fan . . .)DianaW 19:13, 1 November 2006 (UTC)

The Novels WikiProject Newsletter: Issue VI - November 2006

The Novels WikiProject Newsletter
Issue VI - November 2006
Project news
  • Due to the diligance of many editors we now have more than 5000 articles tagged as part of the project.
  • The /Assessment department has been making progress with discussions on the top priority level of novels. These are those articles that should be present in any version of this encyclopedia.
  • The "Members" list has been modified with a short archive or "inactive" list).
Member News
  • The project has currently 170 members, 28 joined & 0 leavers since the last newsletter at the start of October 2006. Of these 7 have been moved to a short "Inactive" list due to not contributing to Wikipedia for at least six months. They are free to reactivate themselves at any time, of course!
From the Members

Welcome to the sixth issue of the Novels WikiProject's newsletter! Use this newsletter as a mechanism to inform yourselves about progress at the project and please be inspired to take more active roles in what we do.

We would encourage all members to get more envolved and if you are wondering what with, please ask.

Kevinalewis : (Talk Page)/(Desk), Initiating Editor
Auto list news
  • The NovelsInCompleteInfobox has been regenerated at the start of October and was shown to have grown rather than shrunk! So this month I have concentrated my efforts (with some help from Grey Shadow (talk • contribs)) on the novels missing "genre" tags. These "genre-less" have now "all" been dealt with. Hopefully we can break the back of this load of work, but it will need help. It would be nice to get these worklists to a state where they can monitor the newly created articles rather than cleaning the retrospective material.
Collaboration of the Month
  • The Collaboration of the Month is going well. October's collaboration was slightly compromised by the removal of our notice early on; however there were still nearly 80 edits to improve the article. This months Collaboration has been selected by popular vote and is Doctor Zhivago (novel)
Current debates
  • We have a project structure that allows for the formation of special interest task forces (al la "WP:MILHIST".) This is useful for identifying groups of Novels editors who have a common interest. (i.e. Science fiction novels, Crime Novels, Children's novels, Classic literature, Russian novels etc.) Would there be interest out there in setting one or more of these up. Comments please to the General Forum.
Newsletter challenge

Last months Liponym challenge was met by Springeragh (talk • contribs), but the article is still a "very" small stub.

  • The first person to start the article is mentioned in the next newsletter. This months' article is Lawrence Durrell's novel Clea.

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Literature quiz

Hi, I'm about to add a short literature quiz to Portal:Literature. Please tell me if you don't like it or if you have any suggestions. The questions should not be changed automatically on a weekly basis. Rather, I'd replace a question with a new one whenever we've had some reaction (hopefully the correct answer).

All the best, <KF> 15:35, 2 November 2006 (UTC)

Farmer in the Sky

Science fiction novel is a list of science fiction novels. I went ahead and changed it to the genre you were looking for (Science fiction novel). -- Jim Douglas (talk) (contribs) 15:57, 2 November 2006 (UTC)

Wikipedia:WikiProject Novels/Worklist

This page, the first table being the Assessment Grades one, does not show up properly - of course it might be my browser use V2 Firefox. Cheers --Lethaniol 12:47, 3 November 2006 (UTC)

Have just checked IE that works fine - ah it is because I use a 12 inch laptop and I increase the text size in Firefox by one so that I can read better. Normally that does not effect any wikipedia pages - only this one it appears. I wonder if it can be fixed. Sorry for the confusion. Cheers --Lethaniol 12:47, 3 November 2006 (UTC)
Yep that looks much better for me in firefox - not so hot in IE as you mentioned. Not sure if this is a problem or not. Will most wikipedians who would be doing lots of editing and helping out with wikiprojects be using firefox or not - hmmmm. Cheers though --Lethaniol 15:24, 3 November 2006 (UTC)

Definately

I'd enjoy working with you on creating some pages for any of the Chronicles. As I have never done anything on Wiki more advanced that editing spelling/grammer randomly as I see it, I'd prefer to follow your lead until I become more confident. However I have tons of free time (being retired and all) which means anything I worked on I could devote some time on. Sort of look at it like you assign the homework, and I'll try and complete it in stages. Coradon

I agree

Seems like more than just us have a passing interests in the Chronicles. Coradon

Chapter Fourteen AFD

An article that you have been involved in editing, Chapter Fourteen, has been listed at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Chapter Fourteen. Please look there to see why this is, if you are interested in whether it should be deleted. Thank you. --CyberGhostface 22:43, 6 November 2006 (UTC)

Pern novels

Hi Kevin, The Dragonriders of Pern novels, Dragonquest etc, are considered science fiction by many (including the author). Some consider them science fiction/fantasy novels. Grey Shadow | Talk 13:16, 7 November 2006 (UTC)

As the Dragonriders of Pern article states, while the earlier novels don't have much in the way of science fiction trappings. The later ones do involve more advanced tech, including satellites, genetic engineering and involve an AI computer. The last one I read, All the Weyrs of Pern would be science fiction. Grey Shadow | Talk 14:11, 7 November 2006 (UTC)
No problem. Glad I could be of some help. Cheers! Grey Shadow | Talk 14:28, 7 November 2006 (UTC)

hello

hi kevinalewis, i see you edited my work on The Stars' Tennis Balls- thanks! So i guess i am to understand that infoboxes should be left with their incomplete sections standing. i will do that in future. i just asked a question about book cover images here - if you can answer my questions at some point here or there i would be grateful. cheers, Mujinga 16:04, 7 November 2006 (UTC)

ok. thanks for pointing me in the right direction! Mujinga 17:27, 7 November 2006 (UTC)

Posting on my talk

Please stop posting personal messages on my talk page about subjects where we have a specific thread ([2]). I'm very well aware of that discussion on Template talk:Infobox Book, so there is no need to repeatedly echo that on my talk page. Thank you. --Ligulem 08:44, 8 November 2006 (UTC)

Your edits to the Iain Banks articles

Hi. I have two comments to make about these edits you are doing.

  1. Your addition of the stub-class assessment on the article talk pages is rather demotivating; I spent several tens of hours researching and writing these articles to the standard they are at now. In many cases I started them from scratch. I question whether your additions will make me inclined to improve the articles further. At the speed you are editing, I also wonder just how carefully you are researching your assessments. To have them so cursorily dismissed as stub-class, without any further suggestions about how you think they should be improved, seems slightly insulting and very unhelpful.
  2. The default you are adding to the format field in the infobox looks clumsy: the repeated capitalisation in the Paperback, Hardback looks ugly and seems ungrammatical as these are not proper nouns. I'm also not sure I even agree that the first edition cover is preferable.

I do appreciate that you are trying to improve and standardise our coverage of novels; I just question whether this is a good way to do it, or whether others, like me, may find it demotivating. Best wishes, --Guinnog 12:57, 13 November 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for your reply. Perhaps the fault lies in the wording. Using "stub" in Wikipedia would usually indicate an article which contains very little information and is little more than a placeholder of a paragraph or two. Anything beyond that would not merit the tag. If you're using the word differently from that meaning, you should maybe make that clearer, or reconsider your choice of words. I will have a think as well to see if I can contribute more positively to help make the hard work you are doing even more effective. Best wishes, --Guinnog 13:20, 13 November 2006 (UTC)
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