User talk:Kevin Rector/archive 1

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[edit] Please stop disambiguating Christ.

Hello! I realize that at the present Christ is a disambiguation page, but your edits are sometimes not making sense. Can you please concentrate on another project? For example, in the Perpetual virginity of Mary entry, you altered a quote that did not say "Jesus Christ". In the entry for Trinity you made it say "Jesus Christ" when "Christ" seems more to the point at that instance. There is a subtle nuance that you are not catching.... Please work on something else. Trc | [msg] 06:42, 19 Jun 2004 (UTC)

[edit] Spaces in links

Hi Kevin, thanks for disambiguation bladder. I've noticed you use spaces on both sides of the piping character (|). The link text as used by the wiki will include the space, which is not very pretty in links that are put between brackets... JFW | T@lk 16:00, 6 Jul 2004 (UTC)

[edit] Great Work!

Kevin,

Great work disambiguating King! Disambiguating is often a thankless job. Thank you. -Rholton 03:31, 10 Jul 2004 (UTC)

[edit] Comment

See my reply to your post on User talk:Rholton. -Rholton 05:59, 15 Jul 2004 (UTC)

[edit] Automatic parentheses eliminator

You could use the "|" character to eliminate the parentheses as in Pacific Islander (U.S. Census)| becomes Pacific Islander to save a few precious bytes on Wikipedia's servers. Mackerm 21:14, 2 Aug 2004 (UTC)

[edit] Disambig. Bot

Hi, Kevin. You seem to be "disambiguating" to redirect pages (e.g. U.S. census race designations). Surely this isn't good practice? Nelson Ricardo 19:59, Aug 3, 2004 (UTC)

Thanks for the comment. That was how it was decided it should be done in a conversation on Wikipedia talk:Bots. The reasoning behind it is that all of the pages redirect to Race (U.S. census). However, someday the concensus might change on where they should be redirected (if they should be redirected at all) and rather than running another bot to make another 30,000+ edits the redirect page could simply be edited. This way if someone wanted to write a more comprehensive article on what it means to be "Hispanic" according to the U.S. Census they could do so without having to worry about the other races/ethnicities. Kevin Rector 20:25, Aug 3, 2004 (UTC)

[edit] Bot flag

Kevin, why isn't your bot being flagged? Recent changes is getting flooded with its edits, and I have it set to hide the edits of bots. Have you gotten developer permission to run the bot? If so, can they set its account to be flagged as a bot? Jwrosenzweig 21:43, 4 Aug 2004 (UTC)

Thanks for the comments. User:KevinBot has been on Wikipedia talk:Bots for over a week and I've put in a request to User:Angela to mark it as a bot. The "deluge" you saw was just the final test. I was testing to see if it worked properly from two computers (it does). The bot only make 3-4 edits a minute but you saw it during the test and it was making 7-8 edits. I ended the test as soon as I saw your message, and I hope it didn't inconvience you any. Anway, I'm not planning on running it again until Angela or someone marks it as a bot. Kevin Rector 22:15, Aug 4, 2004 (UTC)
No problem at all -- I wasn't inconvenienced. :-) I think the two times I looked at RC today just happened to be times you were running tests, and the second time got me worried. Good luck getting it flagged swiftly, and thank you, by the way, for taking the time and trouble to put together a bot to help update pages and get them correct -- I am sure it's a bit difficult even for those who know exactly what they're doing, and I'm glad there are people who do. :-) See you around, Jwrosenzweig 22:22, 4 Aug 2004 (UTC)

KevinBot is now marked as a bot. Please slow it down a bit now you've finished testing it and wait at least 10 seconds between edits. Thanks. Angela. 22:20, Aug 4, 2004 (UTC)

Well, I guess "swiftly" was pretty quick -- she beat me to it here. :-) Happy botting, Jwrosenzweig 22:22, 4 Aug 2004 (UTC)
Congratulations on the bot's success! And thanks very much for your vote of confidence -- honestly, I'm trying not to get too worked up over the election, but it's nice to have encouragement. Here's hoping we can continue to cross paths in the future -- a look at your user page to me indicates we well may, since hockey and theology are two significant interests of mine (though as yet I've contributed little on either topic!). Thanks for your hard work, and happy editing, Jwrosenzweig 19:29, 5 Aug 2004 (UTC)

[edit] Non-logged in blockage

Heya. I blocked KevinBot, editing as 63.89.213.60, because it was operating too fast (with a 6 second delay) and flooding Recent Changes with unflagged edits. Could you remind it that it needs to log in before it goes to work? Thanks. —No-One Jones 11:29, 7 Aug 2004 (UTC)

Thanks for blocking User:KevinBot. You found a bug for me. Apparently if it runs for too long without resetting, it's session times out, but it doesn't know it. So now I know to check for the validity of the session before posting. Sorry if it was any inconvience. Kevin Rector 13:33, Aug 7, 2004 (UTC)

No harm done; I spotted and blocked it about eight minutes into its run. Hope you get the bug fixed, and let me know when you do: I'll unblock it right away. —No-One Jones 13:40, 7 Aug 2004 (UTC)

[edit] KevinBot

Would it be possible to adjust KevinBot so that all RamBot articles would state that the place was in the USA. It currently goes X is a city located in Y-County, Z-State., and it'd be nice if you could add in the USA after that... I think this would be a bit more NPOV. Kokiri 22:32, 17 Aug 2004 (UTC)

Thanks for the idea. KevinBot could do that. However, I would recommend suggesting it at the Village Pump and see what others think of the idea. I don't want to unilaterally make this change. Kevin Rector 13:34, Aug 18, 2004 (UTC)
I'm just doing this now. Kokiri 13:41, 18 Aug 2004 (UTC)
I've been blessed with the discussion from the pump on my user page. I hope I can leave it with you; take what you think is best. I think the consensus is that the country should be named... Kokiri 22:29, 20 Aug 2004 (UTC)
I've removed the discussion to User talk:KevinBot for archival purposes and so that your talk page isn't so crowded. Kevin Rector 22:32, Aug 20, 2004 (UTC)
Thanks for taking care of this! Did anyone ever thank you for updating Rambot? I think it's excellend and highly commend it. Have a nice day! Kokiri 22:34, 20 Aug 2004 (UTC)
No problem. It will be a little while before I can do it, but it will be the next task for KevinBot. It's still running the Ethnicity and race link updates (It's on Wisconsin right now). Kevin Rector 22:39, Aug 20, 2004 (UTC)

[edit] Ice hockey stub

As much as I'm a supporter in sorting the stubs, but a stub specifically for ice hockey? Is that really necessary? I'm trying to sort the stubs on a larger broader category, I would very much support for a sports stub rather than an ice hockey stub. A sports stub will definately see reuse over a long period of time, while as an ice hockey stub will not see much of a use once all ice hockey trivia and information is placed into wikipedia. Aside from that, it looks like the majority of stubs listed now would fit using the bio-stub. -- Allyunion 23:34, 27 Aug 2004 (UTC)

The reason I did this was because there are at least 100 if not more stubs for NHL ice hockey players (not to mention all the other potential ice hockey stubs). I'm working hard to create a general format for the players (see Wikipedia:WikiProject Ice Hockey/Player pages format) but it will take time. Kevin Rector 05:42, Aug 28, 2004 (UTC)
Fair enough. There's one minor problem apparently, but I'm not the one who raised the issue on it. Please see Village_pump. I was trying to ask people to use the new stubs so that more and more articles would show up in the stub categories -- that way unstubbing them would be faster or at least, people can see what stubs they might be interested in editing. However, I've been called an "instruction creep" because of asking people to help out. - Allyunion 06:53, 30 Aug 2004 (UTC)

[edit] World cup rosters

When you wikified the rosters, you took out their titles. Now we dont know which roster is for which country! Just letting you know. Earl Andrew 07:56, 1 Sep 2004 (UTC)

Thanks for the heads up on that, and sorry about that. I'm assuming you fixed my blunder. Go USA. What really stinks, is this is probably the only hockey we're going to get for a while. Kevin Rector 13:48, Sep 1, 2004 (UTC)

[edit] Units of the U.S. Army

/sigh -- why oh why... Category:Units of the U.S. Army is a category where only those active units of the U.S. Army should be listed. You have included a lot of categories inside it that are not supposed to be inside it. For example, Category:Regiments of the United States: are you aware that the U.S. Marine Corps have regiments also? [1] **** happens. =/ —Joseph | Talk 17:41, Sep 18, 2004 (UTC)

I'm not sure what your complaint is. I didn't create Category:Regiments of the United States. I created subcategories because Category:Units of the U.S. Army was overcrowded. Why don't you just rename Regiments to Category:Regiments of the US Army??

Kevin Rector 22:54, Sep 18, 2004 (UTC)

Okay let me try to explain myself... When you include Category:Armored divisions of the United States inside Category:Units of the U.S. Army you imply that all the divisions listed in the category are units of the US Army, when in reality a lot of them were units of the US Army. Clear now? =P

The problem is that Wikipedia doesn't offer a tool for renaming. I have now to manually modify all entries inside it (which I had to anyways, since it is an ambigous category).

I was actually thinking about a Category:Inactive units of the U.S. Army or Category:Former units of the U.S. Army which sounds much better. For example, the U.S. 9th Armored Division would be included in both Category:Armored divisions of the United States and Category:Inactive units of the U.S. Army... but have you actually how much does that suck to do it manually? Do you think a bot can handle that? It could simply parse the article and if encounter "%name% was" then it attachs the category.

—Joseph | Talk 23:16, Sep 18, 2004 (UTC)

[edit] Wikipedia:U.S. Southern Wikipedians' notice board

Hey! I've created this new notice board specifically for articles related to people from the U.S. South. If you are interested in contributing, leave a message on the page and add articles you feel need to be reviewed, contributed to, or started. Mike H 21:10, Sep 29, 2004 (UTC)

[edit] KevinBot Licensing

I was looking at the U.S. city/state articles and noticed that you've made a number of bot changes (User:KevinBot). I've chosen to multi-license all of the rambot contributions under the Creative Commons Attribution-Share Alike Licence. I was wondering if you would be willing to multi-license all your contributions (or at minimum those on the geographic articles) so that we can keep most of the articles available under the multi-license. Many users use the {{DualLicenseWithCC-BySA-Dual}} template on their user page, but there are other templates for other options at Template messages/User namespace. If you only prefer using the GFDL, I understand, but I thought I'd at least ask, just in case. -- Ram-Man 18:05, Nov 17, 2004 (UTC)

  • Hey, as far as I am concerned everything I write on Wikipedia (with the exception of my user page) is public domain. I have no interest in protecting my intellectual property in regards to Wikipedia. In regards to the creative commons license I approve of it as well. Kevin Rector 19:13, Nov 17, 2004 (UTC)
  • Just to be official about it, it would be best if you added the {{MultiLicencePD}} and {{DualLicenseWithCC-BySA-Dual}} templates to your user page (wherever you see fit). This will add your user page to the categories so we can track the fact that you've multi-licenced your stuff. Just make sure that you make reference that you only want it for other than your user pages. I'd do it, but it might look (incorrectly) as if I was doing it for you, which would not be legally valid. For example add the following to your user pages (User:KevinBot and User:Kevin Rector):

I agree to [[Wikipedia:Multi-licensing|multi-license]] my contributions, with the exception of my user pages, as described below: {{MultiLicencePD}} {{DualLicenseWithCC-BySA-Dual}}

--Ram-Man 19:30, Nov 17, 2004 (UTC)

[edit] >>>

Kevin, it's not personal; it's procedural. My impression was that you assumed I was a troll, and hit the full anti-troll defenses. I understand that. But I asked you nicely not to tag the article for deletion, and had no response but more deletion tags. No hard feelings, but it was inappropriate this time.

If you check my contributions, that's only a small number of the pieces I've written. I wrote anonymously for months before finally signing up for a username. It's a lot of hard work sometimes, and as with all work on Wikipedia, it's often pretty thankless. I don't think we should have to go after each other like this -- we're both on the same side. Auto movil 18:52, 20 Nov 2004 (UTC)

[edit] >>>

Well, Kevin, aside from your introducing a factual error into my brief, inconsequential Clamato article in order to make a point, I'd be happy to say that we've covered every possible topic in this discussion.

What I left you with was this: There is no reason for you and I to go after each other; we're on the same side.

If you feel this is not the case, then please take it up with me in a public forum. Auto movil 21:25, 20 Nov 2004 (UTC)

[edit] Featured Article Candidate

Hey, don't be discouraged. Nominate away for articles that you think meet the criteria for featured articles. Not sure why someone decided to remove the very good advice to check the archives first from the instructions. Evil Monkey → Talk 01:43, Dec 10, 2004 (UTC)

  • Just echoing Evil Monkey - it's always discouraging to get roughed up when you try something for the first time. But you may like to know that, as someone who has been fiddling around with Congo Civil War quite a bit recently, I felt immensely gratifed when you nominated it. Editors (me, at least) always appreciate someone publicly saying, "This is a nice job", regardless of whether it actually becomes featured. Cheers, BanyanTree 03:22, 10 Dec 2004 (UTC)
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