User talk:Keppa

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You're welcome. (The other kind of welcome.) :D Ryan 16:06, August 1, 2005 (UTC)

1 Article listed for deletion
2 Steps on deleting an article.
3 Courtesy please
4 Fixing disambiguation links to Solo
5 Articles you might like to edit, from SuggestBot
6 Schlacks
7 Speedy reversion
8 Vandalism

[edit] Article listed for deletion

Hi Keppa,

I noticed from the Inclusionist category page that you're an inclusionist, too, so I was wondering if you would be able to do me a huge favor and possibly place a vote here: Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Embarazada. I added a ton to it, citing my sources. If you could, I would be greatly in your debt.

Best wishes,

Primetime 21:28, 6 April 2006 (UTC)

Thank you very much, my friend!--Primetime 23:37, 6 April 2006 (UTC)

You're very welcome! I find it odd, though, that one was nominated by ConDem. Another was nominated by user:Jmanning--a user name created on April 6.^[1]--Primetime 21:11, 7 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Steps on deleting an article.

Basically, if it is random nonsense or clearly vanity, put up the corresponding template, such as {{db-bio}} or {{db}}.
If it is a bit more complicated, add a {{tl:prod}} template to it.

Finally, if the prod is removed (even if a vandal removes it, do not readd the prod, as this is not allowed),

3. put the page up for deletion by adding a {{afd}} template to it. Then, follow the AFD procedure. Mostly, you'll only get to step 1, as thats what most articles are. Cheers, and if you have any questions, feel free to contact me! :D _-M ^o P-_ 01:17, 21 April 2006 (UTC)

Speedies are generally not added to the Deletion pages as they can become very numerous; I think they just make links that administrators can find, or add themselves automatically. _-M ^o P-_ 01:40, 21 April 2006 (UTC)

Seems MoP has it covered! You might want to check out Wikipedia:Guide to deletion and Wikipedia:Criteria for speedy deletion. Any more questions, feel free to ask me! Con D e m^Talk 17:11, 21 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Courtesy please

Don't you think you are being a little too fast in deleting an article while it is in the process of being written? We are talking two minutes from creation by me to threat of deletion by you! And then Deletion! I saved the page, and when I saved it a second time, lost text because of your speedy threat to delete the article. And then Deletion. Like you, I am a volunteer. I do not appreciate having to write text twice. Please be more thoughtful and careful. Before threatening another editor's work, perhaps you will investigate other work by that editor to determine the credibility of your threat to delete. skywriter 03:33, 22 April 2006 (UTC)

I'm not sure what article you're referring to but regardless, you're right, I should further look into an article before tagging it and I apologize for the extra work. Probably a misunderstanding; could you let me know which article you're talking about so I can maybe figure out what went wrong? Keppa 03:42, 22 April 2006 (UTC)

If you are not sure what article I am referring to, that is a sure sign that you need to stop and rethink what you are doing. You can easily determine an editor's contributions by looking at the article history. That is a basic fact you should know before threatening to delete and then deleting within a period of one minute. Please review what you are doing so that you do not again cost a colleague valuable time. Perhaps you should review the directions and timing for this enterprise for which you just today received directions. I can not tell you how discouraging this is that you have done this, and I encourage you to stop and review what you have done and Wikipedia guidelines. Thank you and sincerely. skywriter 04:01, 22 April 2006 (UTC)

Don't misunderstand; I did look through your contributions before writing the above comment, and could not find a single article that I had had anything to do with. Am I overlooking something? I would really like to know which article you're talking about so I can determine why I would have made this mistake. I have reviewed Wikipedia guidelines and I can't stop and review what I've done when you won't clue me in as to what exactly it is that I did. If there is a problem, I'd like your help in fixing it, as it isn't my intention to go around getting in peoples' ways. Keppa 04:08, 22 April 2006 (UTC)

I think you figured out that you aborted the David Levering Lewis page while it was birthing. I rewrote it so it is no longer an issue. What I find perplexing is that you seem not to know that you can look over your own contribution history to answer these questions for yourself. skywriter 06:02, 22 April 2006 (UTC)

Thank you for being so informative, but actually, yes, I know all about contributions pages. I've edited the David Levering Lewis page exactly once, to correct some minor formatting, and that was after this conversation had started. My contributions page verifies this. I certainly have no idea what you're talking about. Maybe you've got the wrong guy? Keppa 06:12, 22 April 2006 (UTC)

Absolutely not. You deleted the David Levering Lewis page within one minute of placing the notice on it threatening to delete it. This was less than one minute after I created the page and seconds before I tried to add new material to it. After coming to your page to ask you to stop being so hasty, I then re-created the page, rewrote the material and its links, continued to work on it, and you stepped in and put brackets around the word Pulitzer. That is the full extent of what you refer to as "minor formatting."

Why in the world would you have come to the second David Levering Lewis page if you did not delete the first? Absolutely no one else on Wikipedia was working on this except me.

Please stop taking up my time about this. And please be careful about the timing between when you place a threat to delete a page and its actual deletion. Pay attention to who is working on a page before you delete it. Take the time to look up whether the editor is productive, or merely a vandal. You apparently did none of these things when you deleted the David Levering Lewis page and began this cycle of demands that I respond to your requests for my guidance about what you did. I can see from your user page that you have just yesterday received shiny new instructions on how to delete pages and you are excited about using this new toy. May I point out you are over-using it, and I am your victim. Now you are doubly victimizing me-- by taking up my time-- and not acknowedging that in your haste and failure to pay attention to what you are doing, that you deleted a page that ought not to have been deleted. And then you claimed you did not know that you deleted this page. And then you keep demanding that I explain what you did. If you can not explain and account for what you do, please stop right now. I will now take this discussion to the person who sent you the directions for how to delete -- with the caveat that the instructions provide insufficient guidance to prevent over-enthusiastic deletions. skywriter 11:35, 22 April 2006 (UTC)

May I ask you to please stop accusing me of something I did not do? I did NOT delete your page. Excuse me for wasting your precious time but when someone makes an allegation like this I like to get to the bottom of it. I have had nothing to do with that page except the minor adjustment I mentioned. While searching your contributions I came across that page, noticed the subject had one too many apostrophes around it and that Pulitzer Prize was not linked, and corrected this. That is all. You've taken this way too far as I am completely innocent of what you accuse me of, and there is proof if you check my contributions. Please stop with these allegations as they are insulting and untrue. Keppa 17:46, 22 April 2006 (UTC)

I would not know your name if you had not tagged the original page for deletion. skywriter 18:32, 22 April 2006 (UTC)

I tagged it, I didn't delete it. There's a big difference. You've already received an apology for any work you may have lost, but I did not delete the page. I don't know what else you want from me. I don't mean to be rude, but please stop, you're now wasting my time. Keppa 18:35, 22 April 2006 (UTC)

I have asked you several messages ago to stop demanding answers from me. I don't handle deletions and have no knowledge of how to check who deleted what. Therefore I do not know who deleted it but I do know I lost work. I feel you are keeping this alive by contacting me. If you are going to tag pages for deletion, then it seems it should be your duty to find out how and who deleted pages. That's why I suggested you go to your mentor, the person who told you just yesterday how to do deletions. skywriter 18:43, 22 April 2006 (UTC)

Hey Keppa! Don't worry too much about this. There is nothing wrong with tagging a page for deletion if it is in line with deletion criteria. As skywriter says, people need to be careful, but there is no way you could have speedily deleted a page yourself, because you are not an administrator. An admin, by the way, would also have to agree that the page fitted the criteria for speedy deletion before deleting it. So, obivously they might have been a little too hasty as well. Either way, if it was in the least controversial, it would have had to go through the AfD process, and a consensus would have had to be found. Skywriter, if you're reading this, please try not to bite the newbies! Any more questions, ask me! Con D e m^Talk 18:52, 22 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Fixing disambiguation links to Solo

(Copied from the talk page, want to make sure you see it so you don't have to do too much extra word) Don't unlink them! Sorry for the exclamation, but I don't want you to do too much work going back and making the links. The appropriate link is to the article solo (music). If you take a look, it does discuss a solo career/album briefly. However, you do bring to attention that the disambiguation entry does not do a good job of describing that, which I will correct. -- Nataly a 19:26, 22 April 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] Schlacks

Hi there. I noticed you put some speedy deletes in on Schlacks' nonsense pages. He made some other edits, and judging from the edits I do understand I don't trust htem. Could you have a look? I think they're in Tagalog. Sorry if I'm directing you to profanity... -- Steven Fisher 22:15, 15 May 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for investigating. -- Steven Fisher 00:57, 16 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Speedy reversion

Saw your question about reverting speedies. They can be reverted because they say they shouldn't be removed, and there's a tag {{drmspeedy}} you can use on the user talk pages of people who remove them. It's probably best to only do that on obvious nonsense, though. --Jamoche 23:32, 15 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Vandalism

Welcome to Wikipedia. We invite everyone to contribute constructively to our encyclopedia. Take a look at the welcome page if you would like to learn more about contributing. However, unconstructive edits are considered vandalism, and if you continue in this manner you may be blocked from editing without further warning. Please stop, and consider improving rather than damaging the work of others. Thank you. Keppa 16:30, 9 August 2006 (UTC)

if you look at my contributions, you would have to retract your claim. perhaps you mistake me for someone else. unfounded accusation -- no evidence cited. --Ghetteaux 21:59, 9 August 2006 (UTC)

I was referring to your edits to ninja, which I (and I'm not alone in this - hence your edits are constantly reverted) mistook for vandalism. A page like "ninja" gets lots of vandalism, and so I jumped to conclusions, and I apologize. Maybe you could add some additional information so that your contributions are more clear. Keppa 01:39, 10 August 2006 (UTC)

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