Talk:Keane

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[edit] Good article candidacy

This article needs citation where FACT tags are at. Otherwise it seems good. Firsfron of Ronchester 02:14, 4 November 2006 (UTC)

The last tag was replaced for a reference so there aren't any references missing now--Fluence 00:32, 7 November 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for fixing the reference tag. I've noticed there are many one- or two-sentence paragraphs in this article. Can't some of them be merged? Also, there is verb/noun disagreement throughout this article. If Keane is one band, I don't believe the sentence should read "Keane are". You could say "the members of Keane are..." What do you think? Firsfron of Ronchester 17:07, 14 November 2006 (UTC)

The is/are has been largely a conflict between American and British English. I personally believe "is" is the best noun since there aren't, as you say, more Keanes. I'm currently working on the nouns to normalize them into "is" as the main paragraph and American English. The sentences are easy to merge so I'll look forward to--Fluence 23:04, 15 November 2006 (UTC)

After reading a bit through the article and trying to change the nouns I realize it wasn't easy. There are however some articles that read better changing "their" to "its" for example: "Keane have been known as..." to "Keane has been known as". But some others make no logic, at least for me: "Their mothers became friends..." to "Its mothers became friends". Surely is all about the context so it's not really necessary to change all "they" nouns to "it". Maybe I will do it tomorrow but for now I can say "they" to be used when referencing the people, I mean, the members of the band. "It" to be used when talking about the group in general.

I have added a few words to the paragraph about Stefani and merged the sentences about the appereances of the songs--Fluence 23:18, 15 November 2006 (UTC)

I've corrected now the nouns with my Spanish-native-speaker-language since it actually allows using both nouns "it" and "they". I hope it makes sense at all. And I also made an update I had missed ;)--Fluence 23:35, 15 November 2006 (UTC)

I'm not aware that British and American English differ in rejecting "they" for a singular noun. Thanks for the changes. This article does look much better. Firsfron of Ronchester 17:07, 16 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Keane ARE not Keane is

British Band, British grammar rules. Please leave this alone it annoys the p*ss out of me. 88.109.125.62 00:42, 18 November 2006 (UTC)

I love British English to a point I think is the best language on Earth. Somehow it makes more sense to me with "is" though that's American English (in Spanish we say "es" a singular noun not "son", the plural). If you check for the past versions of the page all nouns refer to "they". All nouns were changed when the "is" was changed so please, if you're reverting again "is" to "they" change all nouns trough the article to make sense--Fluence 02:31, 18 November 2006 (UTC)

P.S. You know who I am don't you?

My apologies. My point was not to cause an edit war. I simply didn't realize British English allows those grammar rules. Either way, the article now appears to meet the requirements for a Good Article, and will be listed with other Good Articles. Good work! :) Firsfron of Ronchester 04:53, 18 November 2006 (UTC)