Talk:Katowice

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For Gdańsk, use the name Danzig between 1308 and 1945
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1 Warning/request
2 Edit war
3 Request for temporary injunction
4 History synopsis
5 Names of districts
6 Katowice in news

[edit] Warning/request

Please stop playing with reverts over such minor details. Discuss it here and reach a consensus or in a week I will ask this page to be protected and other Wiki mediation procedures are started.--Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus 16:14, 5 Nov 2004 (UTC)

the discussion you can find here and here. As Gzornenplatz does not accept the german goverment, the Duden, the use in the German press, the homepage of the city, the Wikipedia on pl or de and even the embassy of Poland as proof there is no way to convince him; you might read the discussion itself on this pages ...Sicherlich 16:17, 7 Nov 2004 (UTC)

Well, in that case since we have a rather clear problem, has anybody tried to start vandal-related procedures? --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus 17:59, 7 Nov 2004 (UTC)

I'm more active on .de so I'm not to much into the procedure on en --> I just know the mentioned discussions, Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/Gzornenplatz, Kevin Baas, Shorne, VeryVerily and the blocking of Gzornenplatz by Jimbo ...Sicherlich 18:13, 7 Nov 2004 (UTC)

[edit] Edit war

As the edit war is not stopping. Here is what is going and will happen if you don't stop: Regardless of whether or not the activity should properly be called an "edit war", most users consider sustained episodes of animated cut-and-thrust editing to be undesirable, and if they observe it happening and cannot talk the parties out of it or encourage them to enter the dispute resolution process, they may request protection of the article to enforce a cool down period. Users who persist in this behaviour may be subject to, in severe cases, arbitration. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus 08:54, 10 Nov 2004 (UTC)

you might check here for the discussion itself, Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/Gzornenplatz, Kevin Baas, Shorne, VeryVerily/Evidence and Wikipedia:Requests for comment/Gzornenplatz for the request for arbitration and as well User talk:Jimbo Wales for the discussion Gzornenplatz had after he was blocked by Jimbo .. there are a some more pages e.g.: Talk:Gdansk and Talk:Pila to see the discussions...Sicherlich 09:19, 10 Nov 2004 (UTC)

Read most of it. Lots of talk but little action, and I want those reverts to stop. Any idea how long will it take before something helpful is done here? --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus 09:26, 10 Nov 2004 (UTC)

i have no clue .. at the german wikipedia edit wars like this are handled with less bureaucracy and Gzornenplatz was blocked there several times .. at the moment for some weeks ...Sicherlich 17:00, 10 Nov 2004 (UTC)

As promised, I have requested protection for this page for a cool down period (Wikipedia:Requests for page protection). If it doesnt help, I will have to consider further and more direct actions. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus 09:56, 13 Nov 2004 (UTC)

And honestly, wasting your time on former name or not...it is childish, all of you concerned. Toss a coin, agree on a result, and go do some constructive stuff I know you are all very capable off. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus 10:13, 13 Nov 2004 (UTC)

[edit] Request for temporary injunction

Please join my request for a temporary injunction regarding Gzornenplatz at Wikipedia:Requests_for_arbitration/Gzornenplatz,_Kevin_Baas,_Shorne,_VeryVerily#Request_for_temporary_injunction Fred Bauder 14:45, Nov 13, 2004 (UTC)

[edit] History synopsis

I wonder whether historical synopsis of Katowice is correct – e.g. “The area was owned by the Poles since the 10th century, being ruled by Silesian Piasts dynasty until partitions of Poland in 1795”. AFAIK, the Katowice region was annexed by Prussia after Wrocław (Breslau) Treaty, 1742 – that would indicate, that prior to that date it was not local Piast duchy, but integral part of Silesia (under direct Austrian rules).--MWeinz 11:14, 16 Nov 2004 (UTC)