Talk:Kashubians

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I think there is some mess in this definition.

"Kashubians (also "Kassubians") came into the region between the Oder and Vistula rivers over a thousand years ago."

Kashubians came into land today called Pomerania at least 1500 years ago.


"For much of the period following they were subjects of the Holy Roman Empire and/or Prussia."

It is only partly true and refers to Kashubians living on teritories of former Duchy of Pomerania (germanised between XIII and XX centuries). Those living in Eastern Pomerania (or Pomerelia in german)were never subjects of the Holy Roman Empire. And Prussia only between 1772 and 1919.

"At first they lived in that part of the land later called Pomerania, named after the Pomeranen, who also moved there. Over time they spread and the majority of them came to live east of Gdansk".

What can I say? At the begining (till XIII century) borders of Pomerania were rivers Oder (west) and Vistula (east). It was not a state but a region inhabited by slavic tribes commonly known as Pomeranians (from slavic Pomor'e). What Germans regard as Pomerania are terytories of former Duchy of Pomerania which was created (XII century) from the west part of Pomerania and some terytories of Welts (Lutici). Eastern part of that region was joined to Poland. That eastern Pomerania from XV century was also known as Royal Prussia. Kashubians have been living there from 1500 years and are direct descendants of local tribes of Pomeranians. Pietia


Sorry about Dabrowski. You are right. He was descendant of Kashubian family, however was born in southern Poland.Yeti 23:30, 6 Apr 2004 (UTC)


Oh, no. Untill 20th century all Kashubian nobles considered themselve Polish or Germans. They were bilingual (sometime tri- or even more lingual - for example: Kashubian, Polish, German, Low German. There was nothing like Kashubian national identification. According to your logic, there were no Kashubians before 20th century.

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[edit] Interwiki problem

In other languages there are two different articles: Kashubia (country) and Kashubians (people). In English Kashubia is redirected to Kashubians. This causes problem with interwiki links. I suggest to split it to two articles. Thanks. --rzelnik 14:16, 30 July 2005 (UTC)


sorry to put this here, don't know where else to mention it: CAPITAL OF KASHUBIA/KASZUBY

IMPORTANT -the capital city of Kaszuby is NOT Gdansk. Unfortunately, I'm not 100% sure what is, so can't correct the article. Can someone check this out? Ask a kaszubian! I'll ask someone from my family, they may know what is currently considered as the capital.

[edit] Pronunciation

Could someone in the know put an English pronunciation of 'Kashubian' in? Specifically, I don't know which syllable the stress goes on. HenryFlower 11:34, 25 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Dialect/language

While I'm here, I have another question. The article says, Many Polish linguists used to consider Kashubian to be a Polish dialect, though others believe it is a separate Slavic language. The first sentence implies that it is no longer the case that many Polish linguists consider it to be a dialect. Is that correct, or should 'used to' be removed? HenryFlower 11:37, 25 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Religion

The box states "Catholicism" under Religion. The text specifies that most Kashubians are Lutherans. Which is it? 88.152.198.21 11:33, 22 November 2006 (UTC)