User talk:KarlM
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Please see my reply to your comments on the Moa-nalo. It's good to have more people around that know about birds, plants and all things interesting!
Again, welcome! Sabine's Sunbird talk 07:47, 8 April 2006 (UTC)
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[edit] Action is undertaken!
Actually, there is action, the genera are already described, not yet published. -- Kim van der Linde at venus 06:35, 1 June 2006 (UTC)
- Really? When is that going to happen, and who is doing it? How is Idiomyia (or the others for that matter) going to be defined morphologically? KarlM 07:16, 1 June 2006 (UTC)
- I send you an e-mail, this is not yet for public viewing. -- Kim van der Linde at venus 13:29, 1 June 2006 (UTC)
- It was your old university e-mail, could not find the new one. -- Kim van der Linde at venus 03:05, 2 June 2006 (UTC)
- I send you an e-mail, this is not yet for public viewing. -- Kim van der Linde at venus 13:29, 1 June 2006 (UTC)
[edit] 500+ species
I am curious, where are the descriptions of the 125 additional species, which I can not find, nor major scholars in the field, or is this figure the estimated number including the underscribed species? -- Kim van der Linde at venus 06:38, 1 June 2006 (UTC)
- Yes; I was just going back to clarify that when you wrote. It's a minimum, as there are at least 200 that have been collected but not described. I've gotten 20 myself in a relatively small area. There's an often-quoted figure that there are likely to be over 1000 total (including Scaptomyza), but I think that might be a little high. It's certainly not out of the realm of possibility though.
- Also, there are quite a few species outside of Hawaii with patterned wings. Even immigrans has marks, albeit faint ones. I put one up on the page as an example. Unfortunately the better pictures are not mine to post, but if you'd like I can email them to you. When I get some better pictures scanned in (and get around to it) I'll do a separate page on the Hawaiian drosophilids. KarlM 07:16, 1 June 2006 (UTC)
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- Ok, and here is the crux. Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, and as such, it publishes what is know, not what is speculated as it is not a cristal ball. I know, this can be frustratng, but there are slight different criteria for writing than in science. Anyway, the problem can be easily solved. Dr. Bachli keeps his database up to date, so the approximate number of actuall described species is pretty well know there, and a subsentence can indicate that the expected number is a magnitude larger. That makes it accurate in both ways.
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- I have actually a whole series of publisable images, but they are from wings only, but they can provide a nice example of the variation. This includes wings of within and outside the Hawaiians (Samoaia, elegans, immigrans, gutifera). I never came around of adding those because they are loose wings, but at an appropriate place, they can be donw. -- Kim van der Linde at venus 13:38, 1 June 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Lake Waiau
I just wanted to let you know that it was my fault for putting in those extra quotes. I didn't use VandalProof for that edit. I was stub sorting and I must've done something by accident to put that extra quote in. Sorry. --Tuspm Talk | Contribs | E-Mail Me 16:45, 6 July 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Lono
I saw and appreciated what you were trying to do with the indented quotes in Lono, but I thought it looked a bit un-wiki - especially such a large indented quote - I can't recall seeing anything similar elsewhere on Wikipedia. I think you're right, it might be better to paraphrase it a bit more and integrate it better into the article. There might also be a case for making it a separate article (maybe/eventually) since it is slightly off topic - its not about Lono per se as a traditional Hawaiian god (about whom we need more verified information) but about the possible misidentification of Cook as Lono. Maybe if it was a standalone article, it could be linked by the Lono and the Cook articles. By the way, I am working my way gradually thru all the Polynesian mythology articles to source, verify and expand them, I'd prefer if someone from Hawaii did the Hawaiian articles, but I may be the only Polynesian willing to give it a go, and I do have a good book collection here at home. Kahuroa 10:20, 11 July 2006 (UTC)
