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[edit] James Bond

[edit] Danjaq

Interesting stuff indeed! Glad you were able to get ahold of John Cork; it should make for an interesting part of the article when you get around to it. I'm in the middle of moving to a new apartment this week and have about 100 boxes of books to pack, etc. so my Wiki-presence will be somewhat limited for the next week or so. 23skidoo 22:35, 14 August 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Jackman

I'm with you. I think this is just a gossip item on the same level as the ones that said Sean Connery had filmed a cameo for DAD. We already have fairly good sources saying they're doing to those 4 guys so maybe this was an old item or the writer just made it up. But the fact it comes from the Times gives it some credence (moreso than the Australian gossip page originally cited) so I guess we have to include it for now. I hope O'Lachlan's 20 days estimate is true as this is starting to get ridiculous. PS. it's it strange that the mainstream media hasn't picked up on Connery's return to the role for the video game? Some P.R. guy isn't doing his job at that end... 23skidoo 02:34, 15 August 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Thunderball FAC

Sorry for not getting back to you sooner on this. I'm moving house this week so my time on Wikipedia has been rather limited (I basically hop on now and then for a break from lifting boxes). I think another FAC attempt for Thunderball should be OK. I will try and give it a more thorough look soon. I think a more specific article like this probably has a better chance of being accepted than something more broad like James Bond since it's clear folks don't want list-heavy and fact-heavy articles to be FAC (some of the objections I recall from earlier were repeated with similar articles that, by necessity, had to include lists). Be sure to mention that this is the 40th anniversary of the film: that might provide an extra hook to having it featured. PS. Just found out about your nomination to Sysop (actually by looking on this very page). Congratulations! 23skidoo 02:30, 26 August 2005 (UTC)

The voting looks good so far. One sustained objection compared to several support votes. I'm uncertain as to whether I'm allowed to vote though as I've contributed a fair amount to the article. 23skidoo 16:46, 5 September 2005 (UTC)
Congratulations! I guess it can be done! I wonder if we'll have similar luck with the FAC nomination for the main Bond article. So, when do we find out when it's going to appear on the Front Page? 23skidoo 13:23, 8 September 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Bond girl article

You might want to fine-tooth-comb the recent edits to the Bond girls article. Most of them seem to be OK, but the "Chosen People" addition makes me have doubts. I reverted that part but haven't had time to go through for any other potentially dubious changes. Speaking of reverts, regarding the revert made to GoldenEye, the term parody was used by CNN when they covered the "big shocking revelation" last week that Brosnan was through as Bond. I'll see if I can find an online version that uses that term. 23skidoo 19:41, 29 August 2005 (UTC)

Just as a follow-up, the fellow who posted the "Chosen people" item got back to me and says he felt that enumerating the Jewish actresses on the list was a worthy trivia item. I disagreed, as we might as well break them all down by religion and that has nothing to do with James Bond. I'm sure there are one or two lesbians among them too but there's no point in identifying them in this context. 23skidoo 19:09, 31 August 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Congratulations!

Looks like you're a shoo-in for adminship as soon as the bureaucrats get around to it, so let me be the first to congratulate you! Andre (talk) 21:54, August 19, 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Congratulations

Hi, K1Bond007/Archive6, Congratulations on Becoming a Sysop
Hey there. Congratulations, you've just been made a sysop! You've volunteered to do housekeeping duties that normal users sadly cannot participate in. Sysops can't do a lot of stuff: They can't delete pages just like that (except junk like "aojt9085yu8;3ou BOB IS GAY"), and they can't protect pages in an edit war they are involved in. But they can delete random junk, ban anonymous vandals, delete pages listed on Votes for deletion (provided there's a consensus) for more than one week, protect pages when asked to, and keep the few protected pages that exist on Wikipedia up to date.

Almost anything you can do can be undone, but please take a look at The Administrators' how-to guide and the Administrators' reading list before you get started (although you should have read that during your candidacy ;). Take a look before experimenting with your powers. Also, please add Administrators' noticeboard to your watchlist, as there are always discussions/requests for admins there. If you have any questions drop me a message at My talk page. Have fun! — Ilγαηερ (Tαlκ) 23:01, 19 August 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Congratulations

Well, let me be the third one to congratulate you! If you have any questions, just give a holler! --Kbdank71 23:16, 19 August 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Luxembourg

"Luxembourgeois" is not an English word. The category should be called "Luxemburg politicians." Adam 03:02, 20 August 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Congrats!

Seems like I'm a little late to the party. Oh well, congratulations on becoming an admin! Thunderbrand 06:27, August 20, 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Reply about Drinking Game link

You dropped me the following msg...

Please stop adding these types of links. Wikipedia is an encyclopedia and not a repository of links. K1Bond007 06:11, August 21, 2005 (UTC)

I appreciate your interest in keeping Wikipedia "clean"; please assume good faith. I think your issue is with me respecting the following - quoted from WP:NOT, Wikipedia is not:

"Mere collections of external links or Internet directories. There is nothing wrong with adding to an article a list of content-relevant links; however, excessive lists can dwarf articles and detract from the purpose of Wikipedia."

I generally agree with this - "there's nothing wrong with adding to an article [] content-relevant links". My link is clearly "content-relevant".

When looking into this further (I truly do want to "do the right thing"), I found the external links topic and believe my link satisfies the criterion described in the "Maybe OK to add" section, potentially as a "Web directory" (I do maintain [a directory of these games], but at least as a "Fan site". I want to play by the rules and better the Wikipedia community - but I think I am.

I see you've reverted my contribution to the Alias_(TV_series) topic, without any discussion - the same behavior to take if I were a vandal spraying graffiti. I think that's a dangerous precedent; IMHO, decisions of this sort should be made by "the community".

The Alias topic is the only topic that has provided any negative feedback on my contribution, and if "the Alias wikipedia community" decides to drop the link, I say "great!" Majority wins, that's the beauty of Wikipedia! But enforcing an opinion that these external links is bad without giving the community an opportunity to voice their opinion is bad precedent.

I am a newbie, potentially a clueless one, so I'm looking forward to more on this interesting discussion! ChrisRing 18:17, 21 August 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Directors Cfd

Hi, I changed my vote on this Cfd, and thought I should let you know since you agreed with my earlier vote. The discussion following seemed like a logical solution. Please re-visit this discussion and see if you wish to change your vote accordingly, although you are not expected to. Thanks. ∞Who?¿? 18:18, 21 August 2005 (UTC)

[edit] thanks

Wow, your're quick! Thanks for reverting the vandalism to my user page. Thunderbrand 05:15, August 22, 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Ico -> ICO

Hi, I'm wondering why you changed the title of the game to a capitalized "ICO" when I already capitalized it according to the naming conventions for trademarks (see talk page). Articles such as Doom have also followed such conventions. --Poiuyt Man talk 14:21, 22 August 2005 (UTC)

I think the MCI example is just showing that it's inappropriate to lowercase most acronyms, since it's against standard English conventions. Commonplace words, such as in the REALTOR example, are only capitalized for advertising purposes, and doing so doesn't add to the informative value of the article. Ico may fall in a gray area since it's not a real word; it's the name of the character. As far as I know, it's not an acronym, and names aren't usually in full caps in English. The "Ico" capitalization also seems to be common on major game review sites. A footnote explaining the official capitalization might work, as it was done with the Doom article. --Poiuyt Man talk 07:25, 23 August 2005 (UTC)

[edit] User talk:24.148.241.153

You blocked him yesterday; I blocked him today again for pretty much the same reasons. FYI. Radiant_>|< 10:01, August 23, 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Failure

I am being discriminated against by you. Please stop. The things I have to say are important. Write me back with a commentary,please. Keith Miller (bluekeithea@cox.net) — Comment by 70.177.61.97

[edit] Liontamer edits

Hi Kevin - I see you reverted the link addition by Liontamer. I reverted hundreds of these today to video game articles because in my judgement it was linkspam. I wanted to bring it to you attention as an administrator. Should this user be blocked? Cheers. --PhilipO 04:22, August 24, 2005 (UTC)

Hey there. I made sure to read the "What Wikipedia is not" section to make sure that my links to OverClocked ReMix's unofficial video game music arrangements site were fine in the scope of Wikipedia, which I feel were ok from my POV. I added them to several video game composer/musician Wiki entries earlier, and planned to add them to games currently represented on that site. OC ReMix is completely free & non-profit and was created to honor the soundtracks and musicians of the various games there [1], the music considered by many to be integral to these games, so I feel there are content-relevant.
All material at OC ReMix is fan-created, much like other fan sites devoted to certain games or game series. The music is submitted there and evaluated for quality/creativity standards, and there are also some arrangements given to the site by professional video game music composers such as The Fat Man, Dave Govett, Joe McDermott, and Jeremy Soule. The site has also been supported verbally by other professional video game musicians including John Romero, Tommy Tallarico, Hiroki Kikuta, and David Wise. So on that level, I certainly want to stress that there is no profit-motive and spamming was unintended. I also saw that another user, Rmrfstar, felt these links were relevant. I do feel these are content-relevant link additions, but want to know how they can instead be used in a way that's not considered linkspamming.
Would applying the links to broader topics such as systems (NES, SNES, etc.) or video game musicians be acceptable? Thanks for your clarification, and apologies for getting off on the wrong foot, as I don't intend to do anything ban-worthy. I certainly appreciate Wikipedia. Liontamer 04:59, 24 August 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Template:Indiana Jones

Yeah, it's more of a fan thing, as you know, to have the movies in chronological order. It's the same way with the Star Wars films. They have been put in chronological order on the page, rather than the order they were made, by the fans. I think that the dates help the readers understand, though they may think someone messed up the template by getting the dates wrong or something! Adamwankenobi 04:21, 25 August 2005 (UTC)

[edit] New Bond Fan

Hi there. I'm a new user, Predglyn, and I was directed to you as the wiki-authority on James Bond. I just thought I'd say that I'm a Bond nut too, and would be happy to help out/contribute any Bond-related articles you reckon need such contribution, or needs doing period! I share your admiration for Dalton and general contempt for Moore's Bond, by the way ...

Cheers mate; Predglyn 25 August 2005.

[edit] Bond

Hi K1, thanks for the comments on my user's page. Nice to be welcomed. I'd be glad to help out with the Bond pages (and whatever else I come across--am adding some stuff to Welsh mythology pages at the moment). I can look over the Benson novels again (which I know better than Gardner's) over the next couple o' weeks and try and add at least plot synopses for them. Hey, I even appear in Doubleshot... Predglyn 13:21, August 26, 2005 (UTC)

Replied to this on my talkpage-sorry, got a bit confused! Predglyn 16:57, August 26, 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Bureaucratship

I'm letting you know that I've just nominated myself for bureaucratship for the second time. If you didn't care to know about this, I apologize for the inconvenience. Andre (talk) 02:41, August 27, 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Barnstar

Image:Barnstar.png

I hereby award you this barnstar in recognition of your diligent work for Wikipedia: WikiProject Computer and video games and elsewhere on Wikipedia. Enjoy! Fredrik | talk 12:09, 27 August 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Moneypenny

Hi - look at The Sunday Times (of London) tomorrow. Page 7, I think

Best wishes


Cunningham

[edit] Tomorrow's newspapers

See my biographical note and you shd be able to work it out!

Best wishes

Cunningham

[edit] Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Fiona Volpe

Your input would be appreciated on this one! -- BD2412 talk 20:16, 31 August 2005 (UTC)

  • My personal take is that minor characters in series films should go on the page for the film. With Bond films, which are loosely based on novels, I'd bend if the "minor" character played a necessary part in the development of both the book and the film, or appeared in more than one film. This one, I think, certainly gets no article of her own. -- BD2412 talk 23:57, 31 August 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Civility: a new concept?

One of the requirements of Wikipedia is that you show courtesy and civility to other contributors. And as an administrator you are expected to meet higher standards than others and to set an appropriate example. You are not expected to start edit wars or rant at other people. And you are not expected to repeatedly remove information just because you don’t like it or don’t understand it.

And never use edit summaries to attack me or anyone else. Edit summaries are an important tool for WP editors. It is a serious abuse to misuse them to rant at other users, as you have done several times. Also refrain from constantly using capitals to make a point. I am sure you know this is considered to be SHOUTING, and further lowers standards of civility. Please begin by acquainting yourself with Wikipedia:Civility.

Wikipedia is a collaborative project and it requires users to have some respect for other contributors. If you find yourself unable to meet at least the basic standards of courtesy required then don’t use this site at all. JW 14:40, 2 September 2005 (UTC)

P.S. I never said Broccoli was credited as producer on Thunderball; what part of that don’t you understand?

[edit] FFVI FAC

I was wondering what your opinion is on something. FFVI is a FAC (See Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Final Fantasy VI). However the infobox uses a logo and not the boxshot. It is claimed in the discussion there that there was never any consensus reached on this and therefore it is fine not to use the bosshot. What do you think? Can the article be a featured article like this? Jacoplane 15:12, 2 September 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Thanks for your support

Hi Kevin (ça farte ?), just a quick note to thank you for your support on my RfA. I was pleased to see so much support, especially from people such as you who I do not know very well, if at all. Now that I am an administrator I will do my best to please the community’s expectations. Best regards, Sam Hocevar 17:01, 3 September 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Bureaucratship

Hi, K1Bond007. Thank you so much for your support and kind words on my bureaucratship nomination. Unfortunately, it didn't pass, but I intend to run again soon. If you'd like to be informed next time around, please let me know on my talk page (as merely a formality). Thanks again! Andre (talk) 05:13, September 4, 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Ian Fleming photo

I got the image from http://www.ianfleming.org/, the website of the Ian Fleming Foundation (though I don't see it there any more). I imagine it would meet fair use guidelines for the article Ian Fleming, but I don't know about Thunderball - that seems to be a bit of a stretch. I'm no expert, of course. — Dan | Talk 22:25, 4 September 2005 (UTC)

I'm no expert either but I think it's fair and reasonable that the author of a work is depicted in a detailed discussion of that work. Maybe if it was a smaller item, the Fleming image would be less significant and therefore harder to justify. On the subject of Thunderball - have changed my objection to a support. I appreciate that you responded to my objection in such a pleasant manner. Good luck with the article. I think it deserves to be featured, and it's attracting some positive comments. Cheers. Rossrs 11:08, 5 September 2005 (UTC)

[edit] If you want a chuckle

Head over to my talk page and check out someone trying to convince me why Sophia Loren shouldn't be listed as a sex symbol! 23skidoo 17:31, 7 September 2005 (UTC)

I dunno if you have my TalkPage on my watchlist, but his response and mine might be of interest. I have no intention of citing sources. Your comments are well-put. There's no need! On another matter, I see my edit of Thunderball got cancelled out in an edit conflict. I don't have time to jump back in right now, but basically what I had done was tweak the intro because the original edition of the book wasn't credited to McClory and Whittingham, of course. I also tried to accommodate the suggestion that the reference to the Train Robbery be explained more. But I see no need. I changed the word "meeting" to "briefing" and that's about it. There's also a missing "the" in the introd where the possible use of Thunderball as the first movie is mentioned. 23skidoo 19:47, 7 September 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Popups tool

Congratulations on being made an admin! I thought you might like to know of a javascript tool that may help in your editing by giving easy access to many admin features. It's described at Wikipedia:Tools#Navigation_popups. The quick version of the installation procedure for admins is paste the following into User:K1Bond007/Archive6/monobook.js:

// [[User:Lupin/popups.js]] - please include this line 

document.write('<script type="text/javascript" src="' 
             + 'http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:Lupin/popups.js' 
             + '&action=raw&ctype=text/javascript&dontcountme=s"></script>');

popupAdminLinks=true;

Give it a try and let me know if you find any glitches or have suggestions for improvements! Lupin 01:56, 8 September 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Thanks

Thanks for the support on my RfA. I was very pleasantly surprised to see so much support throughout the week. Please do keep an eye on me and my logs, especially while I'm learning the ropes with the new buttons. Thanks again! -Splash 18:34, 9 September 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Image issues

A bit of a heads up. Looks like some anonymous editor is taking umbrage at the use of screenshots. He/she made a complaint of sorts on the talk page for the image I uploaded at Enya. Now, I know Wikipedia changed the wording on its image rights tag for screenshots and filled it with legalese, but my interpretation is it's still fine to use them in articles within reason. That said, I thought I'd give you a heads up as this anon could make an issue out of screenshots being used for other articles, such as James Bond-related pages. 23skidoo 20:31, 11 September 2005 (UTC)

I just checked a Gardner book at random (Role of Honour) and saw what has been added to the image page. Are we required to go through such hoops now? When I uploaded the image {{bookcover}} was enough. What changed? Or is this just CYA (cover your ...). If this is new policy, I'm done uploading any kind of images to Wikipedia. 23skidoo 23:55, 11 September 2005 (UTC)
I might have overreacted a little bit. I was still reacting to the one guy who said we should only use album covers for the Enya article. I was just concerned that I'd have to write a small essay or spend an hour scouring Google the next time I wanted to put up an image. But who really holds the copyright on a book cover? Would it be Coronet ... or Ian Fleming Publications? 23skidoo 04:26, 12 September 2005 (UTC)

FYI Wikipedia head honcho Jimbo Wales has put out an edict authorizing speedy deletion of any images without proper copyright information. I'm a little concerned that he doesn't specify what he considers proper; hopefully the existing image use tags are sufficient. Anyway, at least one user is taking him seriously and some Trek images have gone bye-bye. I thought I'd pass this along in case you had any non-tagged images left to deal with. Jimbo's "edict" can be found at the top of his page here. 23skidoo 04:26, 18 September 2005 (UTC)

Thanks. I keep an eye on AFD/VFD but I wasn't aware this category of warning existed. If you're collecting feedback on anything, it might be worth suggesting that some of these "possibly unfree image" tags should also be included on the talk page of at least one of the articles using the image. For example, the image for Majel Barrett was flagged and deleted as a speedy, but I have that article on my watchlist; had someone dropped a warning on the talk page I might have been able to jump in and add the proper copyright tag and all that. I asked the user (who I believe is an admin) who deleted that image to put it back temporarily so I can take a look at it, but whether he can, I don't know. 23skidoo 04:39, 18 September 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Issues on Banned IP

Howdy,

My name's Mark and I'm typing from TransportSA, a state government agency here in Sunny (well, sort of sunny) South Australia.

Noticed that this IP ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:203.26.206.130 ) has been banned due to vandalism, and if I could, would highly recommend that you contact Internode about this. Internode has been around as an ISP here in SA for a very very long time, and has a reputation of "doing the right thing". Could I recommend you contact Simon Hackket at Simon@Internode.on.net .. He's the CEO of the business, and a very active and involved person. It may be quite possible that he could initiate some action against the *actual* vandal if you are able to provide a clean time and date that the offending IP did it's work. I *think* actions like this would be against the agreement made with Internode on fair use.

In any case, he's a great guy who just won't ignore the issue.

Hope this helps.

Regards,

Mark Limburg

[edit] Unified Shaders

Ey, i just wanna know if you can explain to me what a unified shader is- i have been searching for quite a while now, 3 months to be exact, for the definition of a Unified Shader. PLEASE tell me what it is. what does iti do? Where did u find out what it was and what it does? KittenKiller

[edit] My RFA

Thank you very kindly for your support for my nomination. I promise your trust will not be misplaced; I may occasionally be slightly buzzed with power, but never drunk. ;) · Katefan0(scribble) 22:18, September 12, 2005 (UTC)


[edit] Unified Shaders (again)

Thanks. that was a great reply, but there were a LOT of complex words in there. Dont worry, this is normal in my case- I ALWAYS talk to people much smarter than I. Aah. my quest for Unified Shaders is finally nearing end. :D The few words i need rephrazed for me are:

  • Allocation
  • Architecture
  • Threading
  • When's DirectX 10 comming out?
  • What API is the Xbox 360 gonna be using?
  • API (even though this wasn't in the reply, but i see this a lot)

I have an idea of all these word's definitions, but the thing is, all throughout wikipedia, it uses big, complex words to describe everything so i dont know the exact definition.

eye em allso lurning mehselff C programin. How different are C and Java? Javasript is the one for online pages right?

Also, i wanna know how i can personally nag you about my questions without these million-some-odd number of people listening to us- this is what happens when you give a mouse a cookie :D

P.S. Pierce Brosnan is the best James Bond :D

Ey, iv been looking around to find people that would explain these things to me, but either they have just an IP address-looking thing where i cant talk to them or their name is in red, where i cant even click on it to talk to them. can you do me a HUGE favor and find one or two people that can help me out? also, can you just PLEEZ try to explain to me as much as you know about those words? KittenKiller 01:23, 15 September 2005 (UTC)KittenKiller

[edit] Help...

I've made a PR for the main 007 page, like you asked, but they only requested changes in pictures. Can you help me out? igordebraga ≠ 23:43, 16 September 2005 (UTC)

[edit] ES Blofeld

In the trivia section in the article about Blofeld there is a reference that he was named after the father of Henry Blofeld, which seems to have been added by you. I have seen the same elsewhere, but was wondering whether you have an exact source.

In some Henry Blofeld book (possibly 'Caught short of the boundary and other long stories' - not sure, read a long time ago), HB said something about Fleming, who was going around in search of an evil name wandering into their club, saw the names of three Blofelds (Henry, his brother & father) in the register and looked no further. From what I remember , HB did not talk about ESB's name being inspired by just his father. I am curious whether he gets specific about this elsewhere ? Tintin 13:12, 20 September 2005 (UTC)

  • Thanks. Do let me know if you find something interesting Tintin 02:15, 21 September 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Why bold?

What is the standard to bold an article? - A Link to the Past (talk) 02:11, 21 September 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Rewrites

Technically, you should be merging page histories... But I haven't done a lot of rewrites so I can't really say. --AllyUnion (talk) 06:10, 21 September 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Removal of Lost Theory

I am wondering why you removed my comment from the Lost article? Ticonderoga 11:46, 21 September 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Thanks and Other Lost Items

Thanks for taking care of the archiving on the Talk page. Also, given that we had a great deal of our reasoning for removing theory and speculation on the talk page, do you think we should add a section at the top of the current talk page describing what the Lost page is not? Baryonyx 20:22, 21 September 2005 (UTC)

OK, I agree on the spending more time watching the page can help alot. Also, I've replied to your comment on the Jack Shephard page. Main gist is: great idea! Baryonyx 20:34, 21 September 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Deleting/Moving Lost (TV series)

This one was an actual article prior to be changed to a redirect, and then finally a disambiguation page. K1Bond007 06:23, 24 September 2005 (UTC)

You make my point for me-- Lost (TV series) was the original title for the article, which had all the content moved to Lost (television drama) without any "formal procedure." Later, Lost (television drama), as well as Lost (TV), were redirected to Lost (2004 television series). I propose that it be reverted to its original name, which more closely matches other similar television articles' titles, as there was no vote (or even discussion) to have it moved in the first place. Thus, there should be no need for a formal procedure, a week of voting, to enact a revert to its original name. And heck, Wikipedia's (still in-effect, last I checked) Be Bold policy says, "[F]eel free to dive right in and make broad changes as you see fit... as long as you have an appetite for debate, being bold is generally a defensible position." LeFlyman 07:02, 24 September 2005 (UTC)

Lost Barnstar
Lost Barnstar
Thank you for your prodigious efforts in getting the move squared away. I appreciate the balance and perspective you brought to the vote. I have a sense that Lost is going to be a fairly active set of article with the new season upon us. Look forward to more of your edits and administrative skillz. For your excellence in editing, I award you, the Lost Barnstar (created just for you.) LeFlyman 20:11, 28 September 2005 (UTC)


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