Talk:Kübler-Ross model

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I agree that the two articles should be merged. Though the theory is applicable to other traumatic events, it was originally outlined by Kubler-Ross in the book "On Death and Dying." Noting in two separate articles is redundant. Perhaps a single article on “The Five Stage Grief Process” could include not only the information about the original author and book, but also how the theory has evolved and is now interpreted in the social sciences. --User:nikehrlich@comcast.net 18:32, 07 November 2005 (UTC)

I disagree with the merge recomendation on the premise that this article pertains to more than death/dying; it is applicable whenever a large (and traumatic) change occurs in one's life. --Astronouth7303 02:32, 26 October 2005 (UTC)

I agree with the merge into one article called something like "The Five Stage Greif Process" since these two things are so closely associated.

I agree with the merge as well. I was searching for the stages of grief and wanted to know in what year they were introduced. That information is found only on the other page. The merge is a good idea

Merged. - Brian Kendig 18:44, 30 November 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Critical of critcism

Sorry for being critical, but I am generally critical of the opinion that all Wikipedia pages must have a "Criticisms" section, especially if they only seem to be criticisms of contributors:

While the model is now quite celebrated, it cannot be taken as normative. - Why? It needs more explanation and/or proper references. It almost sounds like original research, so it needs to be verified.

Critics call the Kübler-Ross model too vague, simplistic, and non-prescriptive. - Uses Weasel Words, which should be avoided. Who calls the model too vague, simplistic, and non-prescriptive?

People can react to grief in many different ways, and the model provides no method to move a person to the "acceptance" stage. And even once reaching this stage, the model provides no guidance to people who may then have to live in a significantly-changed situation. - It doesn't need to provide a method. It is not meant to provide guidance! It is a description of the stages, not a counseling assistant! I'm taking this out (and don't consider it censorship because, quite frankly, it doesn't help the article). If anyone wants to improve this opinion and verify it with a reputable source, by all means add it back in.

Horncomposer 20:24, 31 May 2006 (UTC)

I removed the two links in this section, because they seem completely lacking in authority. I am not a partisan of the Kubler-Ross model -- I think it's probably quite culturally specific, vague, and the rest of it -- but it seems inappropriate to have what I suspect are links inserted by the "critics" themselves, who point to "alternative" models that may or may not have any following or therapeutic validity. 206.174.88.167 00:08, 24 August 2006 (UTC)dhn

[edit] wifiky!

The description of the stages is very non-wikipedia-ish. "the f' you stage"?? And the example is "this isn't fucking happening to me"? I can't believe that the person who wrote that was being serious. I'd add the corresponding tag but I still don't learn how to do it... --164.77.106.168 18:15, 4 November 2006 (UTC)[user:guruclef]