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[edit] dab notes

Hi John, thanks your comment on my talk -- I have replied there. --BrownHairedGirl (talk • contribs) 03:30, 22 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] re: WP:MOSDAB#Redlinks

Was this the section you had in mind? Do include a redlink when another article links to the ambiguous article with none of the disambiguation options in mind. (A list of links to an article can be obtained using Special:What links here.) The rest of the section intimates that there needs to be a good reason for a redlink, and that's the philosophy I've been following. Is there a particular edit, or bunch of edits, that I've made that you have in mind? I'll 'calm down' in the interim. Cheers, Colonel Tom 13:57, 23 May 2006 (UTC)

And my apologies for not making this clear (I was coming back to re-edit my comment, but you replied before I could do so) - I would be happy to receive guidance / clarification. I'm feeling gnomish, and removing redundant blue links and some redlinks seemed/seems like a good idea. The last thing I want to do is create the need for 500 reverts, though. Colonel Tom

14:07, 23 May 2006 (UTC)

I would like clarification; I've been following this precept: Unlike a regular article page, don't wikilink any other words in the line, unless they may be essential to help the reader determine where they might find the information. (WP:MOSDAB#Individual entries) I thought the idea was, if the topic is mentioned in the initial bluelink, then there's no need for other bluelinks in the description. You've restored some bluelinks I removed while I tried to adhere to the above. I've been doing a lot of this kind of edit lately, and I hope they won't all have to be fixed. (I don't think so, of course, or I wouldn't have done it in the first place, but as I said before, I would appreciate advice / guidance.) The examples you quoted on my talkpage, Rafael Trujillo (disambiguation) and Ragnarok (disambiguation), don't seem to meet the above criteria for inclusion. I'm going to stop editing DAB pages for now; please advise how I should interpret the above. Cheers, Colonel Tom 14:35, 23 May 2006 (UTC)

Thanks, John. I've been looking for, but can't seem to find, a statement I've come across on wikipedia to the effect that removing these blue links reduces server load. That's the reason I've been cleaning them up. The basic philosophy, as I understand it, is that there's no point having blue links on a disambig page when those same blue links are found in the article(s) of the topics being disambiguated. eg, there's not much point having

• George Washington was a president of the United states of america
• Washington, D.C. is the capital of the United states of america
• The Washington Redskins are a NFL team

as all those extra bluelinks are, or should be, in the articles, and the purpose of a disambig page is to steer you to the article in question. I assume this has been discussed before, but there may be merit in reopening the discussion. I do appreciate your comments, and your positive intentions in halting what may have been a runaway bot. No bot though, just me. :) Colonel Tom 00:19, 25 May 2006 (UTC)

Thanks. I agree completely; when the dab term is redlinked, keeping the most specific/appropriate bluelink in the description can be a very good idea. Like you, I want to make the encyclopedia better, not worse. I will certainly keep your guidance in mind. Cheers, Colonel Tom 00:36, 25 May 2006 (UTC)

re Ream, I also generally leave a bluelink per line, but didn't in this case because I didn't think caulk assisted in an understanding, as the word 'ream' isn't in that article. I thought the wiktionary link would suffice. Like you, I'm trying to apply MOSDAB, but if I don't get it right, Please feel free to revert (as I did to you, I realise after checking edit history). I really appreciate your 'discuss before reversion' approach, but if you think anything I've touched can be improved, or would benefit from a reversion, please hop in. BTW, do you agree with my above reasoning re caulk, or do you feel that the bluelink would improve the page? I'll certainly continue to consider these points in future. With thanks, Colonel Tom 22:26, 28 May 2006 (UTC)

I didn't feel strongly enough about Ream to change it. Since we are both MOSDABing, I'm mainly bouncing ideas off you about things in general rather than quibbling about individual pages. . . John (Jwy) 22:47, 28 May 2006 (UTC)

Understood. I'm finding it useful bouncing these ideas around. Colonel Tom 22:56, 28 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Another WP:MOSDAB discussion ...

I noted your edit to Red FM with interest. I utterly agree (not that you said as such) that my leaving the town/city and country did not go far enough in 'reducing' the content to meet MOSDAB. Looking at Dab:places, it suggests that there can be merit in leaving the country. I can, of course, see your reasoning behind changing Red FM (93.5 MHz) in Mumbai, India to Red FM (93.5 MHz) in Mumbai, rather than to Red FM (93.5 MHz) in India or Red FM (93.5 MHz), as it makes the most sense. You're not doubling up on the country, and you're including the city, which could be useful. However, even though the nowiki version is available on mouseover, the country is not immediately apparent.

It's my opinion that [[Red FM (India)|Red FM]] (93.5 MHz) in India (wiki: Red FM (93.5 MHz) in India) is preferable to [[Red FM (India)|Red FM]] (93.5 MHz) in Mumbai (wiki: Red FM (93.5 MHz) in Mumbai), simply because I assume that more people know of India than Mumbai (or Ireland/Cork, Australia/Adelaide etc), and that this would more effectively guide them to the station they're searching for. I didn't see the MOSDAB precept behind leaving the town but not country. I would be interested in your thoughts, and would like to add that I'm really finding it beneficial knowing that there's another editor out there looking at DAB pages who I can raise these finer points with. Cheers, Colonel Tom 10:58, 1 June 2006 (UTC)

The mindless answer would be "I'm just following orders," as in WP:MOSDAB#Piping. But I've read somewhere (and believe) that having the article links un-piped makes it easier to understand what is happening when you deal with the dab page and why you ended up on the page you do. For example [[CKYE-FM|Red-FM]] might be disorienting. The other thing is that the blue (and red) are easier to pick up, and if they include the useful dab information, navigation is quicker. You'll see (India) quicker than the India. John (Jwy) 14:45, 1 June 2006 (UTC)

You didn't answer the question I asked { :) }, but you have answered the question I should have asked. Yes, it makes sense; I agree. Red FM (India) (93.5 MHz) in Mumbai is preferable to Red FM (93.5 MHz) in Mumbai, India or Red FM (93.5 MHz) in India. Thanks, Colonel Tom 23:55, 1 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Faust Disambiguation

Wow, I must have had a colossal brain malfunction. For some reason I didn't notice the "Faust" link was already there, even though it clearly was. Thank you for cleaning up after me, sorry about that. Lemonsawdust 07:59, 6 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Hamilton-Burr duel

The Cheney/Burr shooting match is heating up again in the duel article. You took an interest last time, so I thought I might draw this to your attention. Rklawton 20:11, 23 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Beatles

"I'd drop one myself, but thought I'd leave it to those of you who have been focussing on this article more."

You sound like a genuinely nice person, and you are more than welcome to "drop one" if you like. (Don´t drop it on my head though, because it hurts...) Come on in and join the nice people at The Beatles page. andreasegde 12:45, 20 July 2006 (UTC)

Uhhh... Undangle my participles? I´ll have to ask my girlfriend about that one. Sounds nice. See you around. andreasegde 13:39, 20 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Game (disambiguation)

Hi Jwy,

I'm glad to see that you've put considerable amount of effort into cleaning up the Game (disambiguation) page. It looks much better than it did before your edits. While making changes, it seems that you deleted the Big Game James entry from the page. Was this intentional? If so, would you mind explaining your rationale?

Neelix 21:45, 21 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] dabbing 'epic'

I gripe all the time about people providing links to disambiguation pages, and then I go and do it myself :) Thank you! — riana_dzasta • t • c • e • 23:20, 30 July 2006 (UTC)

Uh-oh, dispatch Cardinal Ximinez and friends to Adelaide. (No worries, thanks for the note) John (Jwy) 00:20, 31 July 2006 (UTC)

Is this where I talk to JohnJwy? I can't quite get the hang of your editing comments. Please help?User: Bruno Monkus.Bruno Monkus 18:29, 6 August 2006 (UTC) Bruno Monkus 19:00, 6 August 2006 (UTC)John-regarding Linklater:the acting troupe was funded (over $800,000) by the Ford Foundation. Linklater's purpose was to experiment with her unique voice-training method in order to write about it. The troupe work enabled her not only to succeed with the method, write her first (and very famous) book about it, Freeing The Natural Voice,but it gave her exposure enough to be able to fund a permanent training ground in Lennox, Mass. Several of the American actors of the original troupe, and only them, were directly responsible for that grant, which enabled Linklater to move forward with her desires. Otherwise, the theater world may never have had the remarkable benefits of Linklater's genius. I do not think that the troupe's actions belong as a footnote or in a separate catagory, They were directly and signally involved in her success.

[edit] Humourous

No, a lot of people think it is a UK/US thing, but the correct spelling is actually "humorous" in both variants. See [1] for a very full discussion on the subject. Thank you very much for caring enough about spelling and about regional variation to message me; they are both subjects dear to my heart. --Guinnog 15:14, 26 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Mountain View, California wireless Internet

Yes, I was asking in case the community thought the wireless format should be part of the article. User:David Jordan

[edit] Epic

Actually I don't know either. I was hoping someone else would choose the correct one. --Easyas12c 15:16, 28 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Quiche/Kish

OK, that makes sense. The previous version "Kish, also kisshu or Kish" didn't, nor was it obvious why it was on the Quiche dab page in the first place. Shiroi Hane 20:30, 9 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Stylistics

Thank you for helping me write the Wikipeadia article for ‘Stylistics (linguistics)’.

I think that I got the hang of things – in the end.

I’ve now finished my contribution – give or take the odd minor correction.

I hope to be able to contribute to your project again. I did feel that this entry deserved a fuller explanation.

As for the biographical note, no, I did not write this (but my agent did). I just pasted it in.

I fully accept your guidelines and will, therefore, edit it to a form consistent with your standards and style.

I do feel, however, that a brief entry about my work and credentials should be available for scrutiny, but please feel free to edit accordingly.

Thanks again for all your assistance.

Brian Lamont