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[edit] Pete Townshend

Hi - re Pete Townshend. If people read the article carefully they will understand the detail of the case - but not everyone reads carefully. But the inclusion of the category heading would be seen by more people. And it unfairly brands him in a category he truly does not belong in.

The sole reason that Townshend appears on the list is because of an aberration in English law. He was not charged or convicted yet the law mandated that (if he accepted a caution) he HAD to be placed on a list of convicted offenders even though he was not even suspected of having been an offender (as defined by the law.) Only of downloading images - an act that the police eventually conceded he had not done. In the US Townshend could never be placed on such a list based on those circumstances. Lack of due process apart from anything else. It is probable that The European Court would also rule Townshend's inclusion on the list to be unlawful if he ever challenged it. Townshend made clear in interviews that he considered it more prudent to accept the unfair inclusion than to undergo the pain and public/media hoopla of a prolonged legal battle to clear his name. Davidpatrick 06:33, 29 December 2005 (UTC)

I do see your point. But I don't feel that it is the content of the Sex Offenders page that is wrong. If you read it - it seems pretty clear what it is. I wouldn't presume to change it simply to reflect that on one occasion (to my knowledge) someone was placed on such a list despite NOT having been convicted.
Also the page is not specifically a set of legal definitions. And there are differences in the law between countries anyway. No the key issue for me is that that page relates to people who have committed or been convicted of a specific crime. Townshend wasn't even charged with any such act or crime - let alone convicted. He found himself on an English list (not a US list) by "virtue" of an aberration in the law that meant that he HAD to be placed on a list with convicted sex offenders even though he wasn't one. Explaining that to people sounds like just a technicality. Though it is not. So I think to list Townshend in that category is just unfair given the lack of criminal charge or conviction. Davidpatrick 07:03, 29 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] the Hurricanes

Sorry 'bout that John, just me being pedantic! be lucky, Lion King 23:24, 29 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Michael & JWs

I sympathize. I suspected the whole Michael/Jesus connection was vandalism until I had researched it more thoroughly. (It does sound odd, doesn't it?) TCC (talk) (contribs) 20:08, 30 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] "White Album"

Good job, much better than my attempted "correction" of prior edit! Lion King 04:32, 31 December 2005 (UTC)

Good point, well made- have taken it on board! Best wishes, Lion King 04:45, 31 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Epic and Epic (disambiguation)

I redirected Epic (disambiguation) because it seemed redundant with the already-existing Epic disambig page. Your changes sound fine to me; I just wasn't sure what the main meaning of "Epic" was. æle ✆ 17:41, 31 December 2005 (UTC)

Hopefully you see my message up here... Yes I did notice that you had proposed a move to Epic. Just curious, how many (say out of every 10) of the "What links here" need to go to Epic poetry?--Commander Keane 10:12, 2 January 2006 (UTC)

A note for the Epic of Gilgamesh and the Neo-Assyrian Corpus

Maureen Kovacs work: The Epic of Gilgamesh.....I just was putting away books, cleaning them etc. and read her 1st Paragraph to: "A Note on the Translation" (pg { xiii-not numbered on page } of her 121 pg. c 1985, 1989 work). here is her quote near the beginning of the small paragraph:
" ... ...; I have tried to keep to a somewhat literal rendering of the Akkadian words, grammar, and images, without attempting to recast the poetry of the Akkadian into English poetry . Most of the differences..."...
Like I say, I was cleaning and filing some Egyptian books. This work I synchronized with Line Numbers with Parpola's SAACT Volume I.(The Epic of Gilgamesh); see also Text corpus,POS Tagging). Kovacs translation, will end up being a seminal analysis... (my opinion), and will be superseded by other good renditions. ..MichaelMcAnnisYumaARIZ///Mmcannis 17:55, 15 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] bulk revert

No problem. Fortunately, we don't have to undo vandalism by hand, you can find instructions for reverting a page at Wikipedia:Revert.

Thanks for your help. Canderson7 (talk) 01:15, 1 January 2006 (UTC)

Ah, thanks! John (Jwy) 01:35, 1 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] 2005 in comics

The November 28 entry refers to the epic storyline, something which we don't seem to have an entry on, instead narrowing that idea into Epic poetry and Epic film. I've amended the link as best as I can in light of that fact. Steve block talk 05:22, 1 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Re: Joyce dates

Hey, thanks for commenting. I tend to agree that some dates are useful. The years of his birth, death and in which each of his books were published are linked in the intro. 1904 (the year in which Ulysses is set) is still linked, as well as 1891 (the year his first poem was published, as it was very political and relevant). The ones I removed seemed unimportant to me; for example, I didn't really see the point of having 1893 linked, as the only thing that is mentioned is the minor tidbit that his father was pensioned, or 1888, the year he entered Conglowes, as the 6-year old Joyce starting school had little connection to other events of the year. Obviously, feel free to add any back if you see a reason. Dharmabum420 20:50, 3 January 2006 (UTC)

Cool. I didn't look closely enough to see if you switched all the dates or not. (and I wish 1903 in my note was a typo, but. . .).John (Jwy) 21:31, 3 January 2006 (UTC)
Heh, no worries, I've made similar mistakes many times myself (transposing the actual date to July 16 instead of June 16 is the most frequent). Dharmabum420 00:06, 4 January 2006 (UTC)

Hey... the comma in June 16, 1904 is fine, according to the style sheet, and I tested it with a custom date setting and it worked. It's only when there's no day (eg. June, 1904) that it causes a problem, as far as I can tell. Dharmabum420 23:54, 5 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] 24.94.248.220=YamBond

i forgot to login and then edited something on the persephone page, now im not sure about your concerns about my edits, the zeus part is a fact, you can see it on the Theseus page, where him and his best friend decide to marry daughters of Zeus. Then, in the book the king must die, theseus reaches a city called eleusis, where he is challenged bye Kerkyon the year-king, the name of the queen is Persephone. so if im wrong please correct me, but im pretty sure that there isnt anything that is completly false


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[edit] Wolfgang Hildesheimer

Looks great, good work. SimonP 03:00, 9 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] The Beatles

John, there's an American on The Beatles discussion page wanting to refer to them as "the" Beatles. As you have a better command of the lingo, unlike a Cockney oik like me, could you sort 'em out please? Best wishes, Lion King 20:19, 23 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Dylan on Beatles

No problem with that John. I do feel however, that Dylan's influence on them must be stressed. by 1965 in the UK, they were about as cool as a Pop Tart! A lot of their fans had been lost to Dylan, The Stones and The Who. The kids Mums and Dads had started to like them (FATAL!) and even City Gents in Bowler (Derby) hats, thought them quite good! Dylan's influence on them as far as their lyrics were concerned, was paramount in them regaining their cred.

As far as "THE" is concerned, I feel that the answer may lie in Webster's Dictionary. Best wishes, Lion King 16:27, 30 January 2006 (UTC)

  • Excellent "wordsmithing", spot on! Lion King 19:56, 2 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] The "Quarry Men".

Hi John. This one is down to the fact that they were unable to get the name across the bass drum as one word, in letters big enough to be seen. They were and still are, The "Quarrymen". Cheers, Lion King 14:06, 13 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] {{Book reference}}→{{cite book}}

Are you a user of WP:AWB? If so, then you need to visit here. Copy the <pre> stuff into an XML file on your machine and load it into AWB: Adrian suggests a file-name (which I failed to spot :-).

Otherwise, you can apply to be registered for AWB here: it might well be myself who actually does the registration but even so you need to list your name there. In the meantime you need to look at the talk-page for {{cite book}} where the usage is explained. HTH HAND —Phil | Talk 16:04, 21 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Epic

Hmm... well, I guess the best page would be Epic poetry, but I don't mind having a link to just epic. Thanks! Flcelloguy (A note?) 19:16, 13 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Licorne

Yeah, pretty impressive blowout in the end. I suspected for a long time that this was his motivation (he had all sorts of little signs) and suspected that before he got voted off he would do something revealing (since he clearly had no desire to try and argue his case), but didn't expect it quite this soon. The sooner, the better, in my mind. --Fastfission 16:17, 14 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] The Beatles

Umm... what is this edit? It seems that you were trying to revert some vandalism, but instead reverted to a vandalised revision. M o P 16:03, 22 March 2006 (UTC)

I or popups got the wrong revision. Things were happening so quickly there that it looks like two of up were trying to revert at the same time. . . Thanks for catching it. John (Jwy) 16:07, 22 March 2006 (UTC)
Yeah, it looked like you were vandalising it. But you weren't, so all is well. :) M o P 16:20, 22 March 2006 (UTC)

This is a public computer terminal from a High School, therefore most of the messages from this IP will be vandalism and inappropriate. Just a heads up.—This unsigned comment was added by 72.10.98.130 (talk • contribs) .

[edit] High School

This is a public computer terminal from a High School, therefore most of the messages from this IP will be vandalism and inappropriate. Just a heads up. —This unsigned comment was added by 72.10.98.130 (talk • contribs) .

[edit] Discourse on Method

Hello there Jwy.

Thank you for taking an interest in the article. I started the article in May 2004, and not much of substance has happened to it since then. Today someone posted a finnish link, I got interested in looking at the other links and therefore I looked thru them.

I found that the Portuguese version was a featured article, so I decided to see if one could start improving this a bit. I added some text from the Portuguese version, some from the French, stole a picture from the finnish version, added more sections and some more text from the original text.

It is far from done, but I prefer to experiment my way forwards. Since very few others edit here, I thought I was alone :)

I think images can be a good way of illustrating and lightening up an article so I decided to add a picture of a cartesian coordinate system along the word "cartesian coordinates", and I thought a bit of basic calculus notation might be appropriate beside the calculus version.

Are you interested in improving content and layout to this article too? DanielDemaret 21:30, 26 March 2006 (UTC)

The dx/dy is out then. I destroyed some of my own editing and will try to revert. I hope you find the time to look later. DanielDemaret 21:39, 26 March 2006 (UTC)

Reverted now. Do you think that the sidebox is good or bad? I am thinking of expanding it later with more substance. Before that there is a lot of substance to add and to tie together in the text, and since it is midnight here, there is of course - sleep to consider.DanielDemaret 21:45, 26 March 2006 (UTC)

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