User talk:Juxo
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Juxo, please add some matter to m:consumerium. Thanks
Juxo, I did not made that page, I am sure you know that; I merely saved it from ostracism.
The reason why I did so, I explained on the mailing list.
In extract, this is what I wrote
I think both consumerium and disinfopedia are very important to be mentionned in meta. Why not limit ourselves to the encyclopedia space ? Easy. These two projects have a pecularity that goes beyond what is encyclopedic. And this pecularity does not belong to the encyclopedic article. They are both a justification and a "faire valoir" (my, what is the english word for this ?)
I mean : 1) they strongly rely on the existence of the encyclopedia, since they use it widely as a reference. Without Wikipedia, it is likely these projects would not be viable really. Or much tougher to build. They do not need to include everything themselves, they can use us as a source, and may focus on what is important to them => disinformation and consumerism. They are specialists sources. They directly benefit from Wikipedia growth.
2) at the same time, they augment the quality, the interest, the traffic and the growth of Wikipedia. They directly link to us (not pick up the information to use it freely) hence bringing us new readers and new contributors. As specialists projects, they increase the value of our work. They refer to us. Wikipedia directly benefits from their existence as well.
In ecology, that is called a symbiosis :-)
I do not have the proper words to explain this perhaps, but this is important. It is important to increase the visibility of such projects. And I cannot figure putting this in the encyclopedia article itself.
Now, if I put this, without even an introduction explaining what the project is, or without the external link to the projects (which is the currently banned content), it is just bullshit.
Now, I am glad you improved it in a meaningful way. You are probably more useful than I am :-) You gave it the right to exist again :-)
It wasn't really a translation :) I've written an article in Dutch for Indymedia, about Wikipedia. And I also mentioned related projects. After I published it I found the part about Consumerium quite usable for the 'pedia. :) Guaka 20:54, 27 Mar 2004 (UTC)
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[edit] Pipe Dream
Do you have references for your theory of what a pipe dream is? According to Merriam-Webster, the etymology is much simpler -- "from the fantasies brought about by the smoking of opium"
Thank you - I was just curious, as I was only familiar with the opium based etymology. LarryMac 19:28, 22 August 2005 (UTC) (sorry about not signing my post before, I'm still getting the hang of this)
[edit] Consumerium
No hard feelings, I hope :-) At least it notified you that the site was unavailable. Mr. Jones 16:47, 27 August 2005 (UTC)
[edit] Consumerium, ideas.
Juxo I need to contact you asap about your project consumerium. I have some ideas and a proposition for you. I have been meaning to create a similar site with the same basis but which would very likely have a much bigger impact on consumerism for reasons I need to explain.
All I ask is that you allow me to email you the ideas. I can greatly benefit from your experience and, for your peace of mind I assure you the idea doesn't violate the GNUFDL.
[edit] Just noticed that your article about your wiki has been deleted.
Your article has been deleted on the basis of three votes, and a very low Alexa rating for the site. How many users does it have, BTW? I guess you'll have to move the content to meta. If you ask an admin nicely, they may retrieve the latest version for you. Mr. Jones 19:05, 1 February 2006 (UTC)
