Talk:Jusepe de Ribera
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This is a REALLY outdated article. I have done some work on the final section, but it needs a thorough going-over. Plus Jusepe de Ribera is now standard in English - it was what he called himself - this should be changed. Any objections? ~~
By all means change the name and place a redirection using jose guiseppe or any other names. Also nearly all the 1911 entries need thorough reworking. CARAVAGGISTI 19:21, 31 October 2006 (UTC)
Thanks CARAVAGGISTI. After thinking about it, I will put in a move request on the move request page in the hope that someone more experienced can do it.
Just to summarize the reasons:
- - Baptismal record (1591) has him as: Joan Josep Ribera (Scholtz-Hansen p6- see ref end article)
- - Paintings and prints consistently signed "Jusepe de Ribera, Español"
- - Other original documents (mostly from Italy)use Giuseppe, Jusepe, Gioseppe - José is not mentioned (ditto)
- - Art historians all use Jusepe & have done for decades
- - National Galleries, London & Washington, plus Louvre, all use Jusepe. Last 2 say aka José
but José seems also used in Spanish - is title of spanish Wikipedia article. The article seems to have been Guiseppe Ribera before. Since there are pictures on Commons etc, I would rather someone with more experience could have a go - Thanks. Johnbod 21:47, 31 October 2006 (UTC)
- Support from me, although I also find some Jose references. Jusepe seems more established. ~ trialsanderrors 03:11, 2 November 2006 (UTC)
- Britannica (current on-line edition) uses José; as always, the question is not: "Which is historically correct"; it is "Which is most recognizable in English?" Septentrionalis 16:57, 3 November 2006 (UTC)
- well it is clearly Jusepe on both counts Johnbod 19:03, 4 November 2006 (UTC)
