User:JuanMuslim/Wikipedia Boycott Campaign
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[edit] Wikipedia Boycott Campaign
The purpose of the "Wikipedia Boycott Campaign" would be to call attention to the systemic issues plaguing Wikipedia as explained within the Criticism of Wikipedia article.
- Disclaimer: This is not an actual boycott. This is discussion about a possible boycott; its purpose and means, etc.
[edit] Details
- All details about the possible campaign are all subject to change. Feel free to make recommendations, comments, etc on the talk page.
[edit] Possible slogans for the boycott could be
- Imagine a world without Wikipedia. That's our mission.
- Imagine a day when Wikipedia truly benefits society. That's our mission.
- Imagine Wikipedia living up to its ideals. That's our mission.
[edit] Aspects of the boycott could include
- Acknowledging that Wikipedia is an inherently flawed system that should be ended rather than amended.
- Acknowledging that Wikipedia can never become encyclopedic regardless of changes, recommendations, etc.
- Acknowledging that Wikipedia is based on false assumptions and ideals.
[edit] Consequently, the boycott could seek
- To refuse to participate in contributing to Wikipedia as well as encouraging others to do so.
- To actively discourage everyone from using Wikipedia as a research tool
- To encourage everyone to use legitimate sources for research.
- To encourage professional organizations to officially denounce Wikipedia as a research tool.
[edit] Participants could consist of
- Wikipedians as well as non-Wikipedians. Eventually, the boycott could consist primarily of non-Wikipedians.
[edit] Vote Today!
Please vote Oppose, Support, or Neutral. You may offer your suggestions, make comments, etc at the talk page. Many of your questions may already be answered at the talk page. Longer comments may be moved to the talk page. Current tally - Support: 6; Oppose: 18; Neutral: 3.
- Neutral--JuanMuslim 1m 21:58, 24 November 2005 (UTC)
- I think it's ironic that a user with so many edits can call for a boycott (you've made almost 4000 edits...). And as they're almost all concerning religion, you are what would be politically termed "a single issue voter".
- Your stance that wikipedia "can never become encyclopedic regardless of changes, recommendations" and "Wikipedia is an inherently flawed system that should be ended rather than amended" is not a boycott, but a call for the closing of wikipedia. Therefore your idea of a boycott merely propagates the stereotypes of religious intolerance. It is like a creationist calling for a 'boycott' of the science of biology. --Quiddity 19:40, 18 December 2005 (UTC)
- I think I've addressed your questions at the talk page--JuanMuslim 1m 16:12, 29 December 2005 (UTC)
- Your stance that wikipedia "can never become encyclopedic regardless of changes, recommendations" and "Wikipedia is an inherently flawed system that should be ended rather than amended" is not a boycott, but a call for the closing of wikipedia. Therefore your idea of a boycott merely propagates the stereotypes of religious intolerance. It is like a creationist calling for a 'boycott' of the science of biology. --Quiddity 19:40, 18 December 2005 (UTC)
- Oppose See no reason to boycott Wikipedia, and if I did, I wouldn't even sign a wikipetition stating that I opposed editing the wiki. Babajobu 04:46, 28 November 2005 (UTC)
- Oppose Is it April Fool's day already? This place is getting more an more like Lord of the Flies every day. Who has the conch? And fat people with glasses better look out! FearÉIREANN\(caint) 17:15, 1 December 2005 (UTC)
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- What do fat people with glasses have anything to do with this discussion? --JuanMuslim 1m 16:13, 29 December 2005 (UTC)
- It is a reference to Lord of the Flies --Swift 05:41, 4 January 2006 (UTC)
- What do fat people with glasses have anything to do with this discussion? --JuanMuslim 1m 16:13, 29 December 2005 (UTC)
- Oppose Boycotting Wikipedia won't solve any problems. We need users to work on Wikipedia to address the issues in order to get them solved. - Mgm|(talk) 10:10, 2 December 2005 (UTC)
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- Can the issues ever be solved?--JuanMuslim 1m 23:22, 4 January 2006 (UTC)
- Neutral--εγκυκλοπαίδεια*(talk) 03:27, 3 December 2005 (UTC), I do consider Wikipedia to be a spurious source and very bad to use with any type of research! εγκυκλοπαίδεια*(talk) 03:27, 3 December 2005 (UTC)
- Oppose The only thing wrong with Wikipedia is that its approval process is weaker than other resources...(More at WBC talk page) --Peter McConaughey 00:02, 4 December 2005 (UTC)
- Oppose You have to be joking. A boycott would not fix anything. The only reason why Wikipedia has succeeded is becuase other "open encyclopedias" have more strict rules, and is not fully open to the public to edit. You obviousley have been watching too much of Bill O'Reilly JedOs 11:35, 4 December 2005 (UTC)
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- And, perhaps, this is also the reason it is failing to reach its ideal. --JuanMuslim 1m 16:15, 29 December 2005 (UTC)
- Oppose. Many users feel that one of the inherent flaws of the current system is that it is far too accessible for outsiders to edit. Personally, I think we should restrict editing to people who bother to register a user name. If IPs are being used to vandalise pages, then a block of the IP could affect legitimate users. On the other hand, exclusive editing through user names would make blocking vandals far easier. Still, this does not warrant a total boycott of the project. Brisvegas 06:33, 5 December 2005 (UTC)
- Support Why did they delete my changes is they scared of the truth man?Wiki brah 03:52, 5 December 2005 (UTC) (BrAsilian slutz still dont like Wikimedia)
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- Comment I think someone must have deleted your vote, thinking it was a joke. You know any registered user can vote on Wikipedia, so I guess everyone has a legitimate vote to boycott Wikipedia, too. So why do you support a full boycott of Wikipedia? --JuanMuslim 1m 16:15, 5 December 2005 (UTC)
- I don't think she can answer you because she's boycotting Wikipedia. --Peter McConaughey 15:29, 6 December 2005 (UTC)
- Comment I think someone must have deleted your vote, thinking it was a joke. You know any registered user can vote on Wikipedia, so I guess everyone has a legitimate vote to boycott Wikipedia, too. So why do you support a full boycott of Wikipedia? --JuanMuslim 1m 16:15, 5 December 2005 (UTC)
- Oppose I oppose as well. A boycott is not a productive way to solve this problem. Vanessa kelly 07:07, 6 December 2005 (UTC)
OpposeI have actually been critical of this place before I ever came here. Going here has made me realize in some ways I was unfair, but in other ways it has problems I didn't even imagine...(More at WBC talk page) T. Anthony 10:53, 6 December 2005 (UTC)
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- NeutralI left and then returned, but my attitude is much more critical than it was in December. Essentially there's not much advantage of using Wikipedia versus using a Google search with quotes. The only ones are convenience and a lesser, but not non-existent, chance of getting something written by a hate-group or porno-site. Learning to properly search with words like "sex" or "Ku Klux Klan" excluded makes the place have even less utility. Essentially it has the same benefits and faults of Google/Yahoo/Internet-culture so if it ceased to exist I'm not sure there'd be much harm done. There might even be some benefit as people on Internet debates would be forced to cite more credible sources. That said it's fun to use and its useful for obscure pop-cultural or trivia information.--T. Anthony 15:15, 6 September 2006 (UTC)
- Oppose Anybody that would use any encyclopedia for detailed research is not a serious researcher. An encyclopedia is meant to be an inexpensive way to garner general information and possible pointers to primary or secondary sources for further substantiation. Wikipedia is excellent for this. -Nv8200p talk 14:58, 12 December 2005 (UTC)
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- Excellent point. Encarta is for sheeple. Wikipedia is for thinking beings. --Peter McConaughey 14:41, 14 December 2005 (UTC)
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- Oppose... not really sure if this is a joke or not - sounds far to stupid to be true... I'm guessing everyone has fallen for some crazy prank. Deano 22:08, 15 December 2005 (UTC)
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- Prank? Nope. This is meant to create some discussion. --JuanMuslim 1m 16:18, 29 December 2005 (UTC)
- Oppose I guess this is an exercise in following process. Two quotes are appropriate: "Trying is the first step towards failure." and "Kids, you tried your best and you failed miserably. The lesson is, never try." --Kat 01:00, 17 December 2005 (UTC)
- Oppose. Mithridates 12:12, 27 December 2005 (UTC)
- Oppose Why on earth would you want to get rid of the platform you're standing on? This page is part of Wikipedia. Greatgavini 16:55, 28 December 2005 (UTC)
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- This isn't the only "platform" available. --JuanMuslim 1m 13:34, 9 January 2006 (UTC)
- Mild Support Over-addiction and internal pressures by harassment from other users would kill my life eventually on wikipedia. I felt like hooked to heroin or opium at one time, but got over it after tremendous pressures applied on me by users such as Fabartus and Mel Etitis. Pressures include repeated reverts and making use of legal rules on wikipedia to make people suffer for the thrill-Mel Etitis. There are relatively few users who actually care for the other's emotional feelings. This will inevitably destroy sanity and logic, in turn making a good user into a bad user. Mr Tan 15:59, 1 January 2006 (UTC)
- Nuetral. It is no secret that I personally maintain a critical view of the Wikipedia project. On the other hand, I intend to keep an open mind about the project, and have no intention of "boycotting" Wikipedia anytime soon. --Blu Aardvark | (talk) | (contribs) 03:12, 6 January 2006 (UTC)
- Oppose.--Ahmed 14:38, 7 January 2006 (UTC)
- Oppose. -- user:zanimum
- Support, to be contraversial. --Jono 01:00, 26 January 2006 (UTC)
- Oppose. Putting up a page within Wikipedia to advocate not using Wikipedia? That ought to be cited in the definition of hypocrisy. *Dan T.* 15:15, 28 January 2006 (UTC)
- Oppose, oh noes, people are going to refuse to use the resource we've offered them..! What shall we ever do!?
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01:34, 3 February 2006 (UTC) - support I'm not leaving, but I like this idea. Everyone stop complaining. Think about it. Who would support such an absurd boycott? Tiresome ppl who we would love to see voluntarily leave! :-) Lotsofissues 13:32, 7 February 2006 (UTC)
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- Would you really want everyone who doesn't agree with you to leave? --JuanMuslim 1m 23:27, 20 May 2006 (UTC)
- support - I hear you, and I like what I hear :) - K a s h Talk |
- support - I think this is not an unbiased encyclopedia, a lot of people writing articles on stuff they nearly know doesn`t contribute at all to the general enlightment of people. This project should and definitely will be canceled. I guaranteed
email 23:07, 7 May 2006 (UTC)
- oppose - I support your right to boycott, i certainly understand why; however, maybe your impression of wikipedia is influenced by the type of articles which you are involved in. I see that you are interested in religion, perhaps you are sensitive to other peoples stereotypes or simple ignorance; in this case, I would say that you should not lose your desire to communicate, we are all ignorant, but recognize that the most persistant truth may only be recognized through adversity. I would like to add that as a learning tool, wikipedia encourages me to study diverse topics, and to recall information which i learned elsewhere in order to communicate that to others. SCmurky 05:49, 15 July 2006 (UTC)
- Oppose See the talk page for more of my reasoning but if we do not try, then we will never know so we might as well try. Hey, something really good might come out of all this! --Hydraton31 11:26, 19 November 2006 (UTC)