Talk:Juan Ramón de la Fuente
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The student strike was solved violently using the public force in 1999. Why is user "Viscarra" hiding this fact? Boninho 16:09, 14 February 2006 (UTC)
- Most probably he (Vizcarra) deleted such statements because there were no sources. Feel free to put back that info but cite your sources because if you dont then someone else, or even Vizcarra, will be deleting your edits or putting a tag on them. --Abögarp 16:23, 14 February 2006 (UTC)
- OK, a link to the BBC news has been added: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/633046.stm Boninho 19:33, 14 February 2006 (UTC)
- That's fine. I still rephrased it. If you don't add that the strikers were indeed violent... against university authorities... against the police ... against students who didn't agree with the strike, against the installations... adding the simplistic statement that his solution was "violent" violates neutral point of view. His solution to the problem is highly regarded as effective. There is mention of violent confrontations of strikers with the police even in the BBC source you have added "university authorities had requested help from the federal police after striking students attacked university staff and non-striking students." --Vizcarra 23:12, 14 February 2006 (UTC)
- This may end as an endeless argument that, indeed, has taken place in the past. I suggest not to longer it here, even that I do not share your point of view that students were violent. There were violence but it was seldom started by provocators and radicals that were never the majority. The term "violent" may be left out from this page in spite of agreement. Boninho 01:11, 15 February 2006 (UTC)
- It's not my point of view, it's even reflected in the source you provided, and many other sources. --Vizcarra 07:36, 15 February 2006 (UTC)
- Personally, I'd say the students holding Ciudad Universitaria were among the most violent ones. I was a student at Prepa 6 at the time and the strikers there were reasonably open to dialogue. Then again, there was at least one big fight between them and students that opposed the strike that even made it into national TV. -- Rune Welsh | ταλκ 20:18, 16 February 2006 (UTC)
- It's not my point of view, it's even reflected in the source you provided, and many other sources. --Vizcarra 07:36, 15 February 2006 (UTC)
- This may end as an endeless argument that, indeed, has taken place in the past. I suggest not to longer it here, even that I do not share your point of view that students were violent. There were violence but it was seldom started by provocators and radicals that were never the majority. The term "violent" may be left out from this page in spite of agreement. Boninho 01:11, 15 February 2006 (UTC)
- That's fine. I still rephrased it. If you don't add that the strikers were indeed violent... against university authorities... against the police ... against students who didn't agree with the strike, against the installations... adding the simplistic statement that his solution was "violent" violates neutral point of view. His solution to the problem is highly regarded as effective. There is mention of violent confrontations of strikers with the police even in the BBC source you have added "university authorities had requested help from the federal police after striking students attacked university staff and non-striking students." --Vizcarra 23:12, 14 February 2006 (UTC)
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