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Can someone find out what illness he had after the minor wound at Gettysburg? I believe Last Full Measure says malaria, but I want to be sure. ugen64 02:45, Dec 12, 2003 (UTC)

• I was always under the impression that the redeployment of 20th Maine to the Stone Wall was a literary device employed by Michael Shaara in The Killer Angels. Please provide a source for that detail other than the book or the movie.

I have not yet found any information relating to the 20th being relocated to the Union center. As far as my sources, I have yet to see any mention of the V Corps (which was where the 20th Maine was located) being transferred to the center at all. If anyone has any additional information on this, please provide it. --Martin Osterman 02:24, 19 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Contents 1 last paragraph 2 Wounds 3 Thanks for recent edits HLJ= 3.1 Redirect 3.2 Gettysburg movie quote

[edit] last paragraph

I deleted the last paragraph from a long list of excellent edits. It said:

Chamberlain is remembered and honored today as one of the bravest, noblest, and capable officers of the Union army. Many historians believe that, had Chamberlain and his men not held Little Round Top, the Army of the Potomac may well have lost the Battle of Gettysburg, and perhaps the war.

The first sentence is simply over the top. Noblest? Let's keep a NPOV, please. And although the view of holding LRT meant winning the war has popular appeal, there are few reputable military historians who would say so. A brave engagement, but hardly one on which the entire battle or war rested. I could go into a lot of detail as to why, but perhaps you could cite two or three historians (or document "most historians") who have written this. Hal Jespersen 14:29, 20 July 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Wounds

All sources I have seen point to the cause of death as being complications from his wounds recieved at Petersburg. See [1] and [2] -- I don't have any written sources, but I think that Hal or one of our other contributers probably does that will back this one up. --Martin Osterman 12:27, 7 December 2005 (UTC)

Thanks for sourcing that. I've added that back into the text. // Pathoschild 12:47, 7 December 2005 (UTC)

No problem! I found it to be one of the most interesting Civil War-related facts I'd ever come across... and yes, it did make me do a double-take the first time I read it. Of course, Chamberlain led a very remarkable and interesting life -- but, I think, so did other generals of the day. --Martin Osterman 12:49, 7 December 2005 (UTC)

Although I don't think this is all that important, both of those sources merely state 'died of war wounds' and don't specify the actual cause of death. Perhaps someone romanticized his death and others are copying the claim. I checked Pullen's biography by searching on Amazon and found he suffered throughout his life from the wound (which left a "fistula on the base of his penis" and affected his marital life) and from malaria that he contracted during the war. So it is arguable whether his wound directly caused an 84-year-old man to die or whether he died of somwething unstated while complaining about the effects of the wound. Hal Jespersen 15:39, 7 December 2005 (UTC)

Perhaps this is something that could be researched a bit, then. I do admit that my sources never specified what the actual cause of death was... which now makes me more interested than before. --Martin Osterman 16:47, 7 December 2005

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For what it's worth to you guys, the book Twentieth Maine says he was shot through both directions of his hips, shattering his pelvis, and causing bowel complications, and that is what he is supposed to have died of. --S. Gentry, 12 June 2006

[edit] Thanks for recent edits HLJ=

Looks great! SimonATL 21:32, 27 April 2006 (UTC) —

Chamberlain's wounds were the subject of an article in the Journal of Urology, March 2000, pp 713-716. A summary of the article appears here: http://medicine.hallowed-grounds.com/october2000.htm

71.16.157.130 21:55, 16 August 2006 (UTC)J. Raeder

Appreciate this, and I have taken the liberty of adding it to the article, with citation. --Dumarest 15:22, 22 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Redirect

I would like to suggest the addition of a redirect to this article from a search of "Lawrence Chamberlain" because by reading Civil War novels such as Killer Angels, one would search Lawrence Chamberlain, and expect to find this page

Done. Hal Jespersen 15:11, 29 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Gettysburg movie quote

"This is a different kind of army. If you look at history you'll see men fight for pay, or women, or some other kind of loot. They fight for land, or because a king makes them, or just because they like killing. But we're here for something new. This hasn't happened much in the history of the world. We are an army out to set other men free. America should be free ground, from here to the Pacific Ocean. No man has to bow, no man born to royalty. Here we judge you by what you do, not by who your father was. Here you can be something. Here you can build a home. But it's not the land. There's always more land. It's the idea that we all have value, you and me. What we're fighting for, in the end, is each other. Sorry. Didn't mean to preach." -Colonel Joshua Lawrence Chamberlain

I was wondering if this a real quote by him. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by SlayerOfChainer (talk • contribs) .

You might try looking over at wikiquote. You can also try a google search on one of the more memorable parts of that quote. My guess is that this isn't a real quote. It doesn't feel like what quotes I have read by Chamberlain, and it feels like language of the 2000s more than of the 1860s. GRBerry 12:45, 16 June 2006 (UTC)

–That part of the movie script was taken nearly word-for-word from the novel, Killer Angels. I don't know if the book's author, Michael Shaara, was quoting Col. Chamberlain directly, although that seems unlikely. Still, Shaara used letters, memoirs and other published materials as the basis for the thoughts and words of the characters (Lee, Longstreet etc) in the book, so it's possible that he may have based his rendering of Col. Chamberlain's speech to the group of reluctant soldiers (if it actually happened) on Col. Chamberlain's or somebody else's recollection of the incident.207.59.159.138 21:32, 16 August 2006 (UTC) J. Raeder