Talk:Jornada del Muerto

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[edit] White Sands

The Jornada del Muerto is NOT in the same basin as White Sands. White Sands is in the Tularosa Basin on the EAST side of the San Andres Mountains. The Jornada del Muerto is to the WEST of the San Andres Mountains. Bejnar 15:52, 4 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] El Camino Real de Tierra Adentro

I deleted material more appropriate for the general article on El Camino Real de Tierra Adentro. I deleted the damming of the Rio Grande and the reservoirs as that is on the other side of the Caballo Mountains (and the Fra Cristobal Range) from the Jornado del Muerto. Bejnar 16:40, 4 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Size of Image

The map is important to the article, 200px is too small to see any detail. Bejnar 02:51, 3 September 2006 (UTC)


[edit] Not So Dry

The early travelers on the Jornada chose to move away from the reliable water of the Rio Grande because the section of the River from Radium Springs to San Marcial passes through very difficult traveling terrain, a succession of sand and gravel hills and ravines, and because the Jornada was both a nice level route for wagons, and an especially well-watered section of desert with very good grazing for the livestock. The part of the "Jornada" which is closed today, the University's Experimental Range, is not part of the old route, which can be followed almost exactly today in any passenger car at least as far north as Engle. In the driest of times, short side trips were made to St. David (near Rincon) for water, and sometimes water from the springs in Maclean canyon failed to reach the Jornada Lakes near Engle, and another short side trip was required. Even in the driest of times, then, the greatest distance between dependable sources of water was about 25 miles. A transit of the Jornada typically involved travelling three days and camping two nights.

Most of the deaths which occurred on the Jornada happened in two particular incidents; when colonists were fleeing the Pueblo Revolt, and during the Civil War retreat of the Texan volunteers. Otherwise it was not considered a particularly dangerous route. It was used specifically because it was so much easier and safer than staying on that stretch of the river. Dwmonath 17:59, 15 December 2006 (UTC)