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[edit] John5Russell3Finley blocked from editing Bernat of Septimania

Hello, 1) Please state exact reason for me being blocked, the generic page answer to the question is completely useless to me. 2) You folks wanted Bernat cleaned up, well, I was cleaning him up, he is my ancestor, I don't know if he is your ancestor, but I take a certain interest in mine, and you folks wanted him cleaned up and I was doing that. It takes a while to, as some one else stated in the talk section the English was very bad in places. It takes a while to sort it out, especially if one is unsure what is being said. However I have a BA in History, and have spent some time studying this period, so I feel confident that the changes I was making made sense. 3)Unless you have a very good reason for blocking me I expect an appolgy John5Russell3Finley 03:14, 5 July 2006 (UTC)


I did not block you, although I did block User:Joe Finnes and User:George Walaby recently, and you may be a victim of autoblock. Do you have dynamic IP or maybe someone else used your computer? Please paste the block message. —Quarl (talk) 2006-07-05 03:30Z
1) I do not know what dynamic IP is, so if it is important to this process please provide explanation of dynamic IP.
2) I am the only person who uses the computer that I used to make the post(I have several computers here, and this wasn't the one I used to make the post, this is another computer that I use for special purposes), other people use my email address, though I don't know of anyone using it other than me recently.
3)If relevant please provide explanation of Autoblock
John5Russell3Finley 04:39, 5 July 2006 (UTC)
Can you paste the message you see when you try to edit? Why did you think I blocked you? Is there anyone at your location that may have used Wikipedia recently (even a different computer, but sharing the same internet service provider)? —Quarl (talk) 2006-07-05 05:08Z
See Wikipedia:Autoblock for information about autoblocks. If you have dynamic IP, simply disconnecting and reconnecting to the Internet would move out of the autoblock. —Quarl (talk) 2006-07-05 05:16Z

OK, I will give this a bit of time and space, as I only do this stuff every so often. This sounds like maybe there may be something going on that I don't grasp and for which you are not responsible. If it persists I will let you know (right now I'm on my graphics computer which I don't usually use for general surfing and research so I'm just a bit hesitant to risk much cut and paste). The way I got your ref was that when I was attempting to do a little cleanup on Bernat's biog I saved the changes (about 3 changes of words-from to of sort of stuff {I figure that what ever language Bernat's biog was written in that maybe the translator program may have some trouble with English ? especially translating articles ? I've successfully cleaned up several of these biogs before, though I'm unsure what language it was though I suspect-from what little skill I have with that particular language that it was spanish}, deleated perhaps 2 words and divided a paragraph into 2 paragraphs) then after I previewed it I tried to save it and got the MSG that I was blocked from changing anything due to vandalism etc listing you as the source of the block, with a link to a page of general definitions and explanations. One possible thing is that I may have tripped over a rule while editing one of my own talk entries (which I had several minutes previously editted to remove some excuses that I no longer thought relevant) and one thought I had in the back of my mind was that I may have tripped over one one of your rules, however it was me editing my own words and making them less offensive (even though the only insult would have been to me personally). The MSG said that it was a 24 hour block, so if I have more problems it will be (some time from now likely more than 24 hours) while I'm on my general use computer, and I'll go the full 9 yards with it, hope it's just a glitch. If you have any further insights I would like to hear them. One thing may be that I am on aol, and I have read that this ISP has troubles with Wikipedia. Happy 4th of July64.12.116.197 07:24, 5 July 2006 (UTC)

Hi John5Russell3Finley, okay, that definitely explains it then (that you use AOL - nothing to do with editing your own talk entries). The Wikipedia:Autoblock page explains why AOL has problems with Wikipedia - basically kids messing with pages that get blocked; the only way to identify them is by IP address; but AOL recycles IP addresses quickly. I have unblocked your IP 64.12.116.197 - it may have already changed since you were blocked the first time. I apologize for the collatoral damage - unfortunately it's possible you'll encounter something like this again via AOL. (The reason I was originally suspicious was the similarity between your username and that of one of the vandals I blocked.) —Quarl (talk) 2006-07-05 07:35Z

[edit] Martine Croxall

Hi John5Russell3Finley ( is there a shorter name I could refer to you by? :) ). The problem I found with the article was that at certain points it began to lean from being a biography towards being a bit of a worshipping article instead. What I've learnt at the BBC is that impartiality is everything, and even in a biographical article about a newsreader, even one you find attractive as you seem to. I have come into contact with Martine Croxall myself many times working (almost) alongside her but I won't be mentioning the article so for the time being there is no need to worry.

With several comments I found you had entered into the article, these would be much better off on the article talk page since they refer to, for example, the lack of decent images available of Martine Croxall which can qualify for fair use on Wikipedia. The problem with fair use images is that they are not meant to be crystal clear in quality, but decent enough to allow for identification of the subject. Based on that criteria, the image I have uploaded for the article is more than adequate, though I will seek to update it as and when newer images become available via my website of choice for such images: TV Newsroom.

I hope you did not take offence as a result of my changes to the article and that we can work together to ensure more people hear about Martine Croxall, the "info babe" herself, as you wish. :)

Wikiwoohoo 14:48, 15 July 2006 (UTC)

Russ,


I saw your previous edits to my talk page so I'll answer those as well as the most recent.

You can call me Wikiwoohoo or Grant if you wish, however, can I make it clear that I'm not a celebrity, I'm a news journalist rather than news presenter so you will have never seen me on television, though I have the relevant qualifications to be well equipped to do so. Think of it as this way: I contribute to what you see between the countdowns and programme titles.

With Martine Croxall and Alastair Yates, both are relief presenters, they do not have their own defined time slot to present. As with that, there is a large pool of presenters, that can be picked as and when they are available, which is why you can go for so long without seeing certain presenters. Don't worry, he hasn't left us yet!

Karin Giannone is the correct spelling for her name, tough spelling, don't worry, you aren't alone in struggling with that one.

To be continued...

[edit] Current discussion v.a.v. BBC etc.

Personally in my case this discussion is done, if anything else is bothering anybody, "ghost posts" which though not per se a bad thing result in this case from my deciding that just maybe what I had said was not really all that useful, and that just maybe it ought not to be there.John5Russell3Finley 22:19, 17 July 2006 (UTC)


[edit] Edit conflicts

You left a message on my talk page about a month ago. I apologize for not replying sooner, but I've not been around. (Boring real-life stuff.)

Wikipedia is a collaborative effort, no one, not even the BBC, has "control" of the articles here. If you're involved in an edit war I suggest you get some advice from some of the more veteran Wikipedians. I've not been around, so I don't have any names to throw out. Check out the information on resolving conflicts at [Wikipedia:Community_Portal#Departments], especially on getting help.

I hope that's helpful. I'm sorry I haven't been more active. —Wrathchild (talk) 23:46, 21 August 2006 (UTC)

Hi Sorry not to be replying earlier, me too with the real world stuff, I guess that the "edit war" was a while ago, and well, I guess I like Martine Croxall and Wikipedia too much to have let the Wikiwoohoo edit stuff drag me and etc down into a conflict, I guess I've gotten over that kind of stuff, when I was doing genealogy I got into some stuff like that, and it doesn't help anybody at all, and it does kind of mar what you are working on which I guess can ruin the thing for the folks you are actually trying to reach. I guess that my posting was more of a heads up than anything else, like maybe this is something to be watching for in case it happens to other contributors. The BBC is not per se a bad thing, but if it gets repressive, well, maybe folks need to be watching for that sort of stuff. Thanks for the reply, John5Russell3Finley 01:38, 20 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Block problem

Yup, 'tis a problem in the system. Whenever we block AOL, it inevitably takes someone legit with it. What was the message you got? I'll unblock the username as collateral damage control. - Lucky 6.9 23:50, 20 October 2006 (UTC) Thanks, have forgot what MSG said, but it wasn't one I had got beforeJohn5Russell3Finley 18:13, 5 November 2006 (UTC)

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