Talk:John Wayne Airport
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[edit] Passenger limits
It would be nice if someone could detail the caps on passengers that this airport abides by, and how that was brought about by years of lawsuits and such with local activists.
- Those are becoming increasingly common. I know that Bob Hope Airport also operates under strict controls. See if you can find some sources (the OC Register?) and add whatever verifiable info about it turns up. Be bold! Cheers, -Willmcw 02:17, August 18, 2005 (UTC)
- I found this site, http://www.ocair.com/generalaviation/ganoise.htm It's very detailed as to the specific times and noise levels that must be followed. I sometimes fly ORD-SNA on a 757-200, and I'd be interested to see what the fines are for landing at nighttime hours. --Sean.estrada 08:58, 22 July 2006 (UTC)
- Also, this page discusses annual passenger limits: http://www.ocair.com/aboutJWA/settlement_agreement.htm --Sean.estrada 09:18, 22 July 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Main runway
At 5,701 feet, SNA's main runway is the shortest (that I know of) that is regularly used by jet airliners (by which I mean that the runway is used by airplanes larger than regional jets during the normal course of passenger service). This might be worth mentioning in the article, assuming I have this right.
I know that STT used to be under a mile and handled 727 traffic. I also remember seeing a DC-9 take off from the 5,000' runway at the old location of AUS, but I'll bet that was the exception. I regularly see Embaer regional jets using the shorter runways at DCA but these are smaller than what I would consider to be "airliners."
So does SNA's runway represent an extreme in short runway lengths? Or is this really too trivial? -- Gyrofrog (talk) 20:40, 11 November 2005 (UTC)
[edit] "Steep climb"
Is the departure at SNA really more steep than at other airports? I understand why full power would be necessary on a short runway (e.g. to achieve V1 & V2 ASAP), but someone once explained to me that the steep climb has nothing to do with the short runway: after all, the plane is already in the air. I'm not sure the planes actually make a steep climb to clear the noise-sensitive area, either, which (if I'm correct) would leave the reduction in power and hard turn would as the disconcerting aspects for passengers. (I myself have only flown into the airport, not out of it.) Don't commercial flights (as opposed to, say, stunt flights) climb at about a 20-degree angle, regardless of the airport? -- Gyrofrog (talk) 06:00, 14 June 2006 (UTC)
I've flown out of many airports before and John Wayne does indeed have a VERY steep climb; so steep you would think the plane would stall - anyone who flys out of there will tell you likewise. Note the 'combined with noise restrictions'. Residental areas are not far from the airport so the plane really has to get the hell out of there. People who have flown out from airports before but not from John Wayne will be at the edge of their seats when they depart from John Wayne. In reality though, they couldn't really be at the edge of their seats even if they tried, since rate of ascent is too high. --Bapinney 08:41, 10 August 2006 (UTC)
Many newer aircraft are eliminating their engine power reductions and hence the abrupt angle changes. This is true with the newer 737 NG's operating from SNA lately (AA and WN specifically) as their gross weight (fuel) will be lower than AQ and CO operations which tend to go further distance (eg. EWR and HNL/KOA/OGG). On multiple occasions I've been in WN and AA NG's that have NOT retracted power back.
