Talk:John Rabe

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I'd like to post a question to anybody who may chance upon this site and has read about John Rabe. What was John Rabe's reaction after being turned against by the Nazis? Was he appalled? And did he immediately stop his writings on the Japanese atrocities?

Isabella

According to the book The Good Man of Nanking his disillusions about the Nazis grew towards the end of the war. Apparently Rabe lost all interest in them in his later years. Let's just add that he joined the Nazis initially because he needed to in order to open a school (or something like that - if my memory serves me true) in China, that he was a fervent nationalist and that he had absolutely no idea what Hitler was doing in the period leading up to the war (he was in China throughout).

Rabe was forbidden to exhibit or lecture about the Japanese while the Nazis were in power but he kept documentations in case they could one day come in handy. Mandel 22:09, Nov 25, 2004 (UTC)

On some sources Rabe was credited with saving 250,000 - on wikipedia it's 50,000. Which is correct? Wikipedia seems to be the only one quoting 50,000. -Hmib 04:07, 13 Jun 2005 (UTC)

He protected 250,000 civilians in the International Zone from harm, whether that is saving all 250,000 of them is ambiguous. However I doubt every single one of them will be slaughtered if the Zone was not drawn up. Wikipedia probably refers to the figures in Iris Chang's The Rape of Nanking. Mandel 09:19, Jun 22, 2005 (UTC)

[edit] food and money parcels

I'd just like to make certain whether the packages that Rabe received while in poverty came from the Chinese government, as this article says (and also whether any "money parcels" were sent. This wikipedia article is the only one I can find that asserts so). At http://www.moreorless.au.com/heroes/rabe.html it states that the packages came from colleagues (and that they were cut off in 1949). http://www.ideajournal.com/articles.php?id=22 says that he survived by bartering away his collection of chinese art for food, and http://www.jhu.edu/~jhumag/1197web/nanking.html just refers to "those in Nanking". Is it possible to find out exactly where the money came from?

The Chinese wikipedia says the support was cut off after the ROC government retreated from Nanjing.--Skyfiler 03:36, 27 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Question about the Amazon link

As far as I can judge, it seems to me this article is pretty good - and the destiny of this man pretty wild... The exact origin and duration of the support parcels should be clarified, though, I agree with the previous editor.

My only reservation is technical : next to the title of Rabe's book, there is a link to its Amazon details. Although Amazon description pages are usually of good quality, is it ok to link to a commercial site from a non-profit venture like Wikipedia ?

Fils du Soleil 01:11, 27 August 2006 (UTC)

You're right. Although I don't think there's normally anything wrong with referencing commercial sources, the correct format for books is to cite an ISBN link. That takes the user to a number of sources.

I'll take a further look at it tomorrow if you don't get to it first.

-- Randy2063 02:19, 27 August 2006 (UTC)