Talk:Joan Jett
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I ask anybody who wishes to change the birth year to place say something here on the talk page, and please put in a footnote. For now, I'm going by imdb. Also, please label your changes in your edit summary, and try not to lump birth-date change with other, possibly valid changes. Otherwise, you force others to keep all the changes, or revert them all (the latter being common and unpleasant) --rob 10:41, 21 September 2005 (UTC)
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[edit] Bisexual category
It says nowhere in this article that she is bisexual, so why is she listed as a bisexual musician? She's very queer-friendly, but I've never heard anything about her sexual preference. Thorns Among Our Leaves 01:11, 16 October 2005 (UTC)
- I removed it. I expect somebody will try adding it back, and claim "everybody knows it's true". That category should obviously only be used if it's mentioned in the article, with a reliable source. --rob 02:17, 16 October 2005 (UTC)
- It's a common misconception that categories must be backed up in the article. Whether or not this category applies here, categories are useful on their own and should not require additional backup in the article, unless there's serious controversy. As a matter of fact I don't think there's any controversy about Joan Jett, though she has not publicly come out. --Kstern999 21:41, 26 August 2006 (UTC)
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- Sounds good, except for the fact that now I have "Make Believe" (a JJ song, nonetheless!) stuck in my head. I know, you know... everybody knows it's true... x_x Thanks! Thorns Among Our Leaves 17:16, 16 October 2005 (UTC)
>> Perhaps we could discuss her visit(s) to a NYC 'dungeon'(L'Oil Cachet) and her fondness for using a single-tail whip on bound masochistic men.
[edit] Excessive negativity?
While charting at 19 and 57 is a drop from ILRR, Album still charted higher than Bad Reputation and Glorious Results' position is nothing to sneeze at. Aside from charting, Glorious Results is easily her most consistent album to that point and, while lacking a breakthrough hit song, it's a quality album. (Few artists get even one ILRR to drive an album, much less do it again.) Describing these as 'two clunkers' is a region of opinion but goes so far as to be virtually 'incorrect'. Good Music was a disaster, on the other hand.
She was not a 'backup' singer in the Runaways, but a 'backing' vocalist when she wasn't lead vocalist. In a band sense, Curie was the 'lead' but on a track by track basis, Joan would often take lead vocals.
Wouldn't hurt to mention DDDDC was later released on Hit List, though the version lacked energy and the album was incoherent. Also, an expansion on the so-called 'Riot Grrl' thing and a mention of L7 (they recorded 'Cherry Bomb' together, for instance) wouldn't be out of place. It's not so much that the Runaways were huge or Joan Jett or even all the 'Riot Grrl' bands but, together, they form a large and influential stream. Maybe also more on her influences, which are 50s/60s rock, punk, and metal. She didn't just randomly cover everything from Tommy James to AC/DC, but these permeate all her own music, as well. (Part of the reason Hit List was such a bomb was that it didn't convey any of this very well.)
I don't feel up to editing the article because I'm largely ignorant of her non-musical information and I'm biased regarding her music (which I do know) but I still feel my perception is accurate and that this article doesn't really 'capture' Joan Jett yet. --68.221.118.89 20:22, 17 January 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Stephanie Adams
I've flagged a mention of Stephanie Adams with a FACT tag; see this for the reason why. -- Hoary 02:43, 2 May 2006 (UTC)
- Now in the archive of that discussion page. The (near-) consensus on the talk page of Stephanie Adams was that very little of what the article said was both verifiable and non-trivial. So mention of Joan Jett has been deleted from it. -- Hoary 09:20, 5 May 2006 (UTC)
[edit] MusicBrainz
Could be a good link to get to her (and other artists) production of released music from MusicBrainz. They have some information about that she performed under the alias Patti Rasnick (See : Joan Jet's entry).
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[edit] Joan Jett's date of birth
Hey Rob,
I changed Joan Jett's birth date to 1960. While this is a subject of speculation among fans, her date of birth has always been listed as September 22,1960. Most sources including answers,com list this date as her birthday.
[edit] Joanie
A very minor matter but, as I see Joan has a lot of fans here, who like to work on her article, I thought I would suggest that she might be referred to as "Joanie" at least once in her piece. I don't recall her ever referring to herself that way, and she was never called Joanie on a record, but she was quite often referred to (by others) as "Joanie" back in her Runaways days, and I never read of her objecting. What I'm saying is, lots of people thought of her as Joanie Jett. IanHistor 15:01, 30 June 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Wig???
The article states in the Trivia section that her hair during the Up Your Alley era was a wig?? Is this true? Is there a source for this? Has she admitted this? I would like to see a source verifying this. I searched the Internet and found NOTHING on it. Can someone help me out here?--Sivazh 19:02, 5 September 2006 (UTC)
The author of the wig edit said in their edit summary that they were an assistant on the tour. I guess that goes against wikipedia’s no-primary-research rule but I think those ideological guidelines are mostly meant to smooth out controversy. This seems harmless (and why would someone make that up, I figure?) so I do not think it matters much whether it stays or goes.--209.6.158.247 08:32, 14 September 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Sunday Night Football song by Pink
Has anyone else noticed this song is a blatant cover of "I Hate Myself For Loving You" with different lyrics? I am not sure if Jett wrote the original or not but there should be royatly payments involved, it is such an obvious rip off. Just wondering if anyone else heard this and for all I know the song has been used with permisson. Flagg 29
[edit] Cats - Where?
So is she from Philadelphia or Long Island - the cats say both.TerriNunn 01:04, 5 December 2006 (UTC)
