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[edit] Mannerheim Line

Could you discuss the re-addition of the Mannerheim Line to Category:World War II defensive lines over at Talk:Mannerheim Line? Oberiko 12:29, 16 Jun 2004 (UTC)

[edit] Wikipedia:WikiProject Maps

...maybe of interest to you? /Tuomas 08:34, 29 Jul 2004 (UTC)

[edit] Science fiction#Finland

Hi Jniemenmaa!
I saw that you have written som SF-related articles. If you know much on Finnish Science Fiction I would appreciate if you wrote a few words on the page above. I hunt people who might know things about Scandinavian Science Fiction :-) Gunnar Larsson 20:27, 12 Aug 2004 (UTC)

[edit] Map of Petsamo

I'd like to order a small modification to your map of Petsamo: Could you separate Jäniskoski area from the map, as it was ceded to Soviet Union 1947. The area is closest to Lake Inari, a small rectangular area you could achieve by continuing the border straight between Norway and SU to border running in same direction between Finland and SU. Whiskey 12:18, 20 Oct 2004 (UTC)

You are heroes, both of you! /Tuomas 16:28, 23 Oct 2004 (UTC)

Thanks, J.N., from the new map! (Well, the old border ran SW-NE direction instead of S-N, but that's nitpicking...) If you want to check some text ion issue, see http://www.finlex.fi/linkit/sops/19470009, where the text of the decree where the separation was done is readable (in Finnish, naturally. Sorry folks!). You can trust finlex: It is maintained by Finnish Department of Justice and is a database of Finnish laws and treaties. Whiskey 21:03, 23 Oct 2004 (UTC)

[edit] Petsamo, Narvik, Malmbanan, Kiruna, Malmberget, Luleå

Since you have got some experience in the art of making png-maps, may I try to entice you to consider a map to illustrate the plans of 1940 for a Franco-British expedition force to the Arctic, that also could be useful in the context of Operation Weserübung?

the needed modification :-)
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the needed modification :-)

I guess it would do with some modifications (Petsamo!) of the map at http://fi.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kuva:Eurooppa.png

The Malmbanan railroad Narvik-Luleå, and the road to Petsamo, that the British were keen to avoid, are of course in the center of interest.

A peculiar wish of my own would be to illustrate a (typical) ice situation to illustrate the importance of Narvik, i.e. somewhat in accordance with:

Under milda vintrar finns det is i Bottenviken, på redderna utanför hamnarna i Bottenhavet och på Finska viken, i området öster om Borgå longitud. Under normala vintrar är alla Finlands sjödistrikt isbelagda. I söder går gränsen då norr om latitud 59 N.

found at http://www.fma.fi/s/verksamheter/vintersjofarten/pelisaannot_se.pdf

compare: http://www.fimr.fi/stc/palvelut/images/docs/3_max2004.GIF
found at: http://www.fimr.fi/en/palvelut/jaapalvelu/jaatalvi2003-2004.html

regards!

--Johan Magnus 15:50, 10 Nov 2004 (UTC)


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Splendid idea! No offence, but I agree with JNiemenmaa, that the map can be improved ...in due time!

I wonder if it would be good to check what it would look like, if one tried to get all of the Kola peninsula, all of Finland ...and I think that would mean all of Norway too... on the map. It's true that the important things then became less obvious (i.e. the rail way line and the Petsamo road), but for people who are less versed in Fenno-Scandinavian geography, that might make it easier to connect the map to one's memory.

An arctic circle could maybe serve a similar purpose.

Another thing that might be valuable would be such a marker of distance, you know, like a stock that is marked for 200 and 500 kilometers, or whatever would be actual on that map.

But in any case - the map is very good in principle, and relevant for not so few articles! Improvements can be made later.
--Ruhrjung 19:08, 2004 Nov 12 (UTC)

Thanks to you both for your comments! I think it would be best to do several maps instead of trying to stuff too much info on a single map. A larger overview map for the nordic theater would be quite useful.
Adding a distance marker on the maps should be simple, but adding the polar circle is a lot of work, see my attempt in the map at nordic countries. -- Jniemenmaa 11:05, 15 Nov 2004 (UTC)
You are right, of course! :-) --Johan Magnus 22:03, 15 Nov 2004 (UTC)

[edit] stress

Thank you for your effort with Meänkieli! I saw your note on wikistress. It's not without me starting to feel some early warning symptoms too. I think I'll retreat to biographic articles. /Tuomas 09:31, 23 Nov 2004 (UTC)

BTW, did I ever say your maps are good? Maybe I didn't.

Your maps are GREAT contributions! You may feel them to be less than perfect, but they do really improve and explain a lot! /Tuomas 09:35, 23 Nov 2004 (UTC)

[edit] Version between Brion's map and Image:Lapland1940.png

Hello,

I would be interested in a map of Lapland with current borders. Image:Lapland1940.png has historical borders with names. Brion Vibber's map has current borders but no names. I would be interested in a map with current borders and names, for at least Narvik, Gällivare Municipality, Kiruna Municipality and Luleå Municipality. Do you have a version which would make it easier to create such a map than either version I mentioned?

Gerritholl aka Topjaklont | Talk 18:13, 25 Nov 2004 (UTC)

[edit] Maps of the Continuation War

Hi.

I presume that Image:Continuation-War-1941.png presents the situation at the end of June, right after the start of war? In that case, it is missing some Soviet divisions: 1 Arm.Div.(1.Arm.D) in Kantalahti and 1 Inf.Div.(70.D)+1 Mt.Div.(198.Mt.D)+2 Arm.Div.(21. and 24.Arm.D) in Kannas.--Whiskey 14:23, 9 Dec 2004 (UTC)

At the start of hostilities, yes. If I remember correctly. I took most of the info from one of the "Jatkosodan historia" books. Too bad I don't have the specific book handy right now. At least the 1st Armoured Division was moved out of the area before it could fight. It is quite likely the reason I didn't put it in. I'll try to fix this sometime when I have time. I'll propably redo the whole map at the same time, I don't really like the look of the unit symbols. -- Jniemenmaa 15:33, 9 Dec 2004 (UTC)
That is true also to some other units as well. Those 21. and 24. Arm.Ds were moved to the southern side of Gulf of Finland as situation there become critical, but they were there at the time (or they were coming there) when Soviet Union decided to end phony war. --Whiskey 15:48, 9 Dec 2004 (UTC)

[edit] finno-ugric critic

delete. I don't see how this could become something else than an article pushing for a particular POV. Besides, there is already a Criticism section in Finno-Ugric languages. -- Jniemenmaa 09:25, 19 Dec 2004 (UTC)

Where is criticism section on that page? If I write even a line, hipo or mustafa immediately delete everything, and refuse to discuss. Why do you like such an erroneous page without any critic? If you think, critic is righteous, why don't you vote to merge the pages? Is it not better for the quality of the wiki? Antifinnugor 10:11, 20 Dec 2004 (UTC)

[edit] Battle of Daugavpils

I've seen your contribution to the Estonian Liberation War article. Perhaps you could help us with our problem explained at the Talk:Estonian Liberation War page? Halibutt 22:25, Jan 9, 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Wikipedia:Image recreation requests

Greetings. I just started the Wikipedia:Image recreation requests project, and I thought you might be interested. Your help would be greatly appreciated. (I got your name from the list at Wikipedia:Wikipedians/Cartographers.) Best regards, – Quadell (talk) (sleuth) 03:19, Jan 30, 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Wikipedia:Naming conventions (military units)

Hi Jniemenmaa. Your earlier comments about WWII stuff helped motivate me to set up a draft Wikipedia:Naming conventions (military units), so drop on by if you want to participate in working it out. Notice that it is not intended to be WWII-only; the more the variety of times and places, the more general we can make the conventions. — B.Bryant 00:20, 15 Apr 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Maps of Sweden

Hello. I found your name as you made the map at Kiruna. We Swedes need some maps of Swedish cities that shows their location in Sweden. As an example, see the map of German Schwerin and Swedish city Trelleborg at http://sv.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trelleborgs_kommun . See also Sweden_Wikipedians%27_notice_board

Is this something you'd be interested in? --Fred chessplayer (talk) (edits) 14:46, 2 May 2005 (UTC)

I'am afraid I don't have the time to do something like that (It would be quite a project). Not for the moment at least. I know User:Mic did a lot of Sweden related maps (unfourtunately he seems to have left).
Thanks for the link to the notice board, I'll keep an eye on that. -- Jniemenmaa 15:09, 3 May 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Map of the roman Empire

I really like your map of the Roman Empire but I noticed the label for Proconsularis has a lowercase p, I would change it myself but I'd be sure to make a mess of things! Cheers -- Joolz 16:42, 17 May 2005 (UTC)

And it's just occured to me that it's meant to be like that, ah well, sorry for bothering you! -- Joolz 16:45, 17 May 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Maps of the Byzantine Empire on Commons

Hi! On the Dutch Wikipedia, some of your maps of the Byzantine Empire are used from Commons (see nl:Byzantijnse Rijk). I have a question about these maps. The maps are released under "GNU Free Documentation License"", but there is also a "(C) 2004 Jari Nemenmaa" in the top left courner. I'm no expert on copyright issues, but I guess GFDL and (C) are a contradiction? Tjipke de Vries (Talk on nl:wikipedia) 15:41, 4 Jun 2005 (UTC)

This is best explained here: Wikipedia:Copyrights#Contributors.27_rights_and_obligations specifically it says that after contributing "you retain copyright to your materials". So I still own the copyright to the original image. But I guess anyone could just edit it and even remove my (c) notice. -- Jniemenmaa 08:47, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Image - Copyright Vio

Hey,

As discussed, it most probably is a copyright violation. Perhaps a good idea to delete it. I'm not quite sure how to do that. --Ansbachdragoner 4 July 2005 23:19 (UTC)

I've responded on Ansbachdragoner's talk page. -- Jniemenmaa July 5, 2005 13:47 (UTC)

[edit] Continuation War maps

You have some great maps about Continuation War. fi:Jatkosota lacks images badly, would you like to change the texts on those images to Finnish and upload them to Finnish Wikipedia? --rdnk 18:48, 29 August 2005 (UTC)

Ok, there is one there now! :) I finished a couple of maps just yesterday. I'll try to translate these other maps when I have time. -- Jniemenmaa 06:00, August 30, 2005 (UTC)
Thanks! Great work btw. :) --rdnk 22:38, 30 August 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Help with Translation!?

Can you help translate this for me to swedish? Many thanks in advance!

For a small country, Albania is endowed with considerable resources. The southwestern part of the country is rich in petroleum and natural gas. The northeastern region has substantial reserves of metallic mineral deposits, including chromium, copper, and iron-nickel. Large deposits of lignite (soft coal) are found near Tiranë, and natural asphalt is mined near Selenicë.

Albania is also rich in rivers and streams with significant hydroelectric potential. These have been exploited quite effectively, making the country an energy exporter. A number of huge hydroelectric power plants have been built, mainly on the Drin River, and more than half of the country's arable land is irrigated, largely from the artificial reservoirs created upstream of the dams.

--Armour 14:02, 22 November 2005 (UTC)He

[edit] thanks for your maps

This of the Roman empire is nice and clear, thanks :] 82.244.80.175 16:48, 29 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Byzantine Maps

I'm not sure how to change the licensing of the maps you mentioned. Perhaps you could change them for me or explain how this is done? Thanks Bigdaddy1204 23:11, 9 January 2006 (UTC)

Ok, done -- Jniemenmaa 08:18, 10 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Latin Empire map

I notice that on your map of the Latin Empire, you've spelled Constantinople "Constantinopel". Could you please fix that? Thanks. Choess 03:43, 21 January 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] Keksustelu Meksikon pääkaupungin suomenkielisestä nimestä

Milläs oikeudella estät keskustelun "pelkästä" keskustelusta koskien Meksikon pääkaupungin suomenkielistä nimeä ja suljet muokkausoikeuteni viikoksi? Huomautan, että en ole tällä ip-osoitteella muuttanut lainkaan artikkelin tietoja. Anna selitys, niin katson ryhdynkö lisätoimenpiteisiin! Terv. --85.157.87.76 18:13, 18 September 2006 (UTC)

Luultavasti Jniemenmaa antoi kyseisen bannin puhtaasti eston kiertämisestä. --Jetman 15:29, 19 September 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] Suomenkielisestä Wikipediasta

Hei. Kirjoitan samalla tunnuksella fi.wikissa, olen tällä hetkellä muokkausestossa henkilökohtaisista hyökkäyksistä. Käyttäjä:Frank, joka tuntee kaunaa minua kohtaan, käyttää hyväkseen tätä tilaa ja on nyt lisännyt perusteettoman väitteen Sock puppetista keskustelusivulleni: http://fi.wikipedia.org/wiki/Keskustelu_k%C3%A4ytt%C3%A4j%C3%A4st%C3%A4:Jaakko_Sivonen Kaikki, jotka tuntevat minut tietävät, etten ole Asterix, niin luultavasti Frankkin tietää. Hän on tehnyt saman perusteettomasti myös esim. käyttäjä:Mezquille. Pyytäisin siis, että poistaisitte tämän perusteettoman syytöksen ja tekisitte vaikka IP-tarkastuksen, jos haluatte sen varmistaaksenne, etten ole Asterix. Kiitos. --Jaakko Sivonen 17:13, 30 September 2006 (UTC)

Käyttäjä:ML poisti maininnan jo, mutta jos haluatte vielä varmistaa, voitte kernaasti tehdä IP-tarkistuksen, ainakin, jotta se tulisi selväksi Frankillekin. --Jaakko Sivonen 17:50, 30 September 2006 (UTC)
Ilmoitin tästä keskustelusivullasi fi.wikissä. -- Jniemenmaa 08:43, 1 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Karttapyyntö

Terve, olemme tässä parannelleet Finnish Civil War -artikkelia viime aikoina. Juuri nousi Good articleksi ja kohta FA:ksi pyritään. Mutta nuo kartat tuossa keskivaiheilla ovat huonolaatuisia jpg kuvia, joiden hyökkäysviivatkin ovat käsinpiirrettyjä. Katsoinpa vaan että Battle of Salla (1939) on hieno kartta ja sinä ilmeisesti sen olet tehnyt. Elikkäs jos millään aikaa riittää niin jos noista sisällissodan kartoista saataisiin paremmat png versiot niin hyvä homma olisi. Kiitos --Pudeo (Talk) 19:49, 12 October 2006 (UTC)

Täytyy katsoa kotona tietokoneella jos siellä löytyisi jotain sopivia karttoja joiden pohjalta näitä voisi tehdä. En lupaa vielä mitään, on nimittäin aika kiireistä juuri nyt... :( -- Jniemenmaa 09:53, 13 October 2006 (UTC)
Juu, onko täällä muuten missään Suomen karttaa 1920 Tarton rauhan jälkeen? Onhan noita missä näyttää ne muutokset, mutta ei Suomen rajoja normaalina. Maps Of Finland katergoriassa ainakaan ei ollut. --Pudeo (Talk) 13:51, 8 November 2006 (UTC)
Minulla on jonkinlainen kartta jossa on ns. Tarton rauhan rajat. Jos sinulle riittää tyhjä karttapohja niin voin hommata sellaisen. -- Jniemenmaa 08:38, 17 November 2006 (UTC)
Riittähän se kai juu. Onhan se nyt vähän huono kun ei ollenkaan löydy. Sisällissota äänestys on jo candidate. --Pudeo (Talk) 22:55, 24 November 2006 (UTC)
Commonsista löytyy nyt kaksi karttapaohjaa commons:Image:Finland 1918 terrain.png ja commons:Image:Finland 1918 plain.png. En valitettavasti kerkeä mitään tarkempia karttoja tekemään. -- Jniemenmaa 15:10, 25 November 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] Map

Hi I am editing a short film (5 min) about the three wars in Finland 1939-1945 for Försvarsmuseum in Boden. I would like to use your map Finsk_framryckning_i_Karelen_under_fortsattningskriget.png‎. Is it free to use? If not, at what price? 213.67.208.209 18:07, 16 November 2006 (UTC)Anders B

No problem, you have my permission to use the image for that purpose for free. But note that my original map has been edited by Thuresson at the Swedish Wikipedia (he added labels in Swedish), so you should maybe ask him too. If you want, you can make a donation to the Wikimedia foundation here :) -- Jniemenmaa 08:05, 17 November 2006 (UTC)
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